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Off Topic / Re: gender neutral kid switched up graduation

« on: June 07, 2015, 01:20:59 AM »

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Amade, I don't think your approach to activism is working here.

How so? There is literally nothing that can be said that would sway Kearn. When it comes to things like this, it's not about who you're arguing against, it's about everybody else who's reading the argument.

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Off Topic / Re: gender neutral kid switched up graduation

« on: June 07, 2015, 01:02:45 AM »

considering the people i associate with this is never going to be an issue

Keep telling yourself that ;)

If you really think I'm talking about randomly asking people about their chromosomes I'm assuming you have one extra?

Yay! Ableism AND common sense!

weird infinitely confusing 'gender identity'

Gender identity is not confusing. Call a person by the name and pronouns they want you to call them by and don't police what they wear or how they act and you won't encounter any problems.

I'm not entirely sure what your position is. Are you saying that trans people have some sort of duty to inform you of their trans status at some point in a relationship?

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Off Topic / Re: gender neutral kid switched up graduation

« on: June 07, 2015, 12:21:49 AM »

It would be pretty sad if you didn't notice what kind of parts they had unless love-change surgery has gotten a million times better than what i've heard it is

It's fairly good for women. I've heard that there are some trans women who can fool gynecologists. A lot of trans men are still waiting for their sort of loveual reassignment surgery to improve, though, because that one isn't as good.

ok guys i guess im sensible. thanks for your help. i will continue on with being attracted to biological females and being bigoted and narrowminded. i am enlightened.

Clearly not. What's it like to ask every potential partner about their chromosomes before love?

IMO if somebody wants to be called he or she or whatever it's fine by me, I'll refer to them as that

Being confrontational or standoffish about pronouns or identification is stupid and useless. So what if this transgender man was born a woman? If they want to be called a guy, why can't you just... call them a guy?

Seems pretty reasonable to me, but you'd be shocked at how many people take MASSIVE issue with this.

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Off Topic / Re: gender neutral kid switched up graduation

« on: June 06, 2015, 11:54:10 PM »

(1) is that the only word you know? you're a one-trick pony

(2) and?

(3) what does any of that have to do with the fact that the surgery destroys their ability to naturally have children

(4) what gives you the right to tell me who i must be attracted to and then pick buzzwords out of the dictionary and throw them at me when i tell you to get lost you fascist

(5) i forgot that trans women are entirely capable of reproducing and produce their own eggs. woops! my bad. so sorry.

(6) which of course is a valid reason to tell me i must be attracted to them or im a bigot or whatever dumb insult of the day youre using

(1) 404 counterargument not found

(2) You come home with a girl from the bar and are getting ready to have love with her. How do you know if she's not bioogically female? You can't, unless you ask her (and she knows - she could be biologically male without knowing it if she has complete androgen insensitivity syndrome) or perform a genetic brown townysis or something like that. So if there's something to her not to do with her appearance that's affecting whether you're a-OK with having love with this person or completely revolted, you might be a transphobe.

(3) Lots of people are sterile for lots of reasons, such as androgen insensitivity syndrome, physical trauma, menopause, amputation (e.g. to remove a tumor), or natural causes. My mother, for instance, is naturally sterile.

(4) I'm not telling you who to be attracted to. I'm telling you that you probably wouldn't be able to tell if a certain person was trans even after having love with the person. Around 0.5%-1.2% (1 in 200 to 1 in 83) of people are trans, but how many trans people do you think you've encountered in your life? Odds are, you've encountered plenty of trans people without even knowing it. A person's being trans doesn't affect your attraction to them, even though you think it does, because you don't have some sort of magic trans radar.

(5) Would you be unwilling to marry a naturally sterile woman, then? I think that's pretty silly.

I blame Bruce Jenner media thing.

Her name is Caitlyn, and common sense didn't start with Caitlyn Jenner.

and attention-seeking kids and tumblr (or was it facebook?)'s "50 genders" special snowflake-ism

common sense also didn't start with tumblr or facebook.

But I still don't think it's scummy of me to not support them either. I don't and shouldn't feel an obligation to help a group that doesn't apply to me and/or I have disagreements with. I don't feed African children or save stray dogs (or help those who really do those things), and it's the same feeling here.

A tragic lack of empathy :/

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Off Topic / Re: gender neutral kid switched up graduation

« on: June 06, 2015, 11:15:29 PM »

Do I have to directly and actively support the movement of transgender rights to not be a transphobe?

In a word, no. You only need to not hold prejudiced opinions against trans people. Many people have a knee-jerk aversion to some aspects of being trans, but I've found that proper education can mollify this. However, it would be great if you were also an active supporter of movements for trans rights.

Please answer my question because i'd like to know whether or not I'm a transphobe.

chill lol

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Off Topic / Re: gender neutral kid switched up graduation

« on: June 06, 2015, 11:11:59 PM »

Oh I said I'm intolerant and/or express hate towards them? Uh hold on, let me try to find where I said that.

The "you" in my response to your post wasn't directed at you; there's no need to go on the defensive.

All I said is that I'm not supportive of the movement. I have nothing against people with gender/loveual orientation, and never said I did. What do you want me to do? Donate money? Invite a gay man to lunch? Why can't I just be indifferent?

Anything you can. In particular, educate yourself on LGBT+ issues and don't stand for people you know spouting ignorant or bigoted opinions - educate them as well. Changes in society are effected one person at a time.

Why shouldn't you be indifferent?
"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."
- Martin Niemöller

Part of this is probably just ignorance but I don't really understand what rights they are deprived of besides marrying each other (soon to be 100% legalized if I've heard right). There's always gonna be the bad eggs who make life hard for them, but we still have tribals, feminational socialists, chauvinists, etc.

If someone could fill me in (legit request, not sarcasm) on what else they don't get that I can do myself.

LGBT+ people are still often murdered in hate crimes in addition to facing discrimination on both interpersonal and institutionalize levels. While LGB rights are finally getting to a vaguely decent place legally, they are still often subjected to harassment and discrimination. It's the T+ rights that are still not in a great place, legally or otherwise.

Of important note is that trans people need a lot of time with a psychiatrist in order to even qualify for the expensive medical treatments necessary to improve their quality of life from "abysmal" to "bad." This means that poor trans people are basically stuff out of luck.

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Off Topic / Re: gender neutral kid switched up graduation

« on: June 06, 2015, 10:54:05 PM »

(1) tay-sachs and sickle cell anemia confirmed not abnormal genetics. you have saved us all from inbreeding and cancer

(2) no my concern is that IT IS A BIOLOGICAL MALE you psychopath

(3) im sure cutting off and chemically suppressing your reproductive organs to the point where you are incapable of reproduction is not destructive at all

(4) nope because its restoring them as close to their original form as possible not shoehorning them into a new one that they are not capable of performing properly in
(5) i know that your opinions about such surgeries are born of nothing but your intolerance and absolute hatred for anyone who dares to challenge your agenda

(1) I did say "situations like this," but feel free to ignore that if that makes it easier for you to justify your common sense.

(2) I invite you to read this: http://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition/androgen-insensitivity-syndrome

(3) Do you think that Self Delete or the extremely poor quality of life that can result from extreme and untreated gender dysphoria is less destructive? And even if so, who are you to question the prevailing scientific and medical consensus? Do you have a PhD or an MD in a related area? What gives you the right to police what other people can and cannot do with their bodies?

(4) "capable of performing properly in" - What? Seriously, what? Do you have any evidence or are you just making things up?

(5) Actually it's more like such surgeries are deemed part of treatment for gender dysphoria and are overwhelmingly supported by scientific evidence as improving the quality of life for trans people. I can easily source this if you doubt its truth.

Also, my agenda:

• take care of dog
• show people that common sense is bad

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Off Topic / Re: gender neutral kid switched up graduation

« on: June 06, 2015, 10:46:18 PM »

I'm just sitting here in awe at all these liberal lgbt supporters being intolerant at the opinions of those who are either ignorant or not supportive of transgender people, while at the same time dissing them for being intolerant.

Idk if I'm saying this right, but hopefully you get my drift.

We wouldn't want the bigots to be uncomfortable. It must really suck for people to hate you for openly expressing bigoted opinions absolutely no reason.

I'm not the kind of ideologue that throws around the word 'bigot' a lot (unless it really fits), but being intolerant of other people's intolerance is not the same thing as hypocrisy.

bigotry
1. Intolerance or prejudice, especially religious or racial; discrimination (against); the characteristic qualities of a bigot.
Members of the Ku Klux Klan practiced extreme bigotry. (via wiktionary)

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Off Topic / Re: gender neutral kid switched up graduation

« on: June 06, 2015, 10:26:05 PM »

change our minds about wanting to have children and be with a normal biological female? yeah thats gonna happen

There is no such thing as normal in situations like this - only more and less common.

There are plenty of ways for a couple incapable of typical pregnancy to have children, including adoption and surrogacy. As for "being with," your only actual concern there is that you're sensible.

not when you're a complete dumbass and sperg out over everything that gets said
like seriously, why do you keep replying, whoever gets the last reply doesn't mean they won the argument

Wouldn't be a proper blockland forums thread without stuffting on people with autism spectrum disorders, I guess.

get lost with your e-fascist garbage you lunatic

telling people they cant have children because thats discriminatory against people who surgically destroyed their genitalia is completely insane

i am not going to be attracted to someone with male genitalia. ever. accusing me of being narrowminded because im not attracted to men is so incomprehensibly bizarre i have no idea what to do with you at this point

I have no idea why you like calling people fascists for being halfway-decent human beings but it's pretty funny.

He didn't say anything about having children's being discriminatory. Further, calling loveual reassignment surgery a "surgical destruction" of genitals is beyond ridiculous. Would you consider surgeries designed to reconstruct deformed genitals to also constitute destruction? Where do you draw the line? (Don't worry about answering these questions. I know that your opinions about such surgeries are born of nothing but common sense.)

That last bit is just beyond silly. Do you have x-ray vision and/or require a complete inspection of someone's body before you start feeling attraction? If not, you've probably seen a few trans women without even noticing it, and - GASP - might have even been attracted to one or two. The horror!

If this kid only sees everyone as human beings than why does he even wear clothes? According to him we are all the same anyway.

lol wut

lol all you friends getting out in june

i got out in may 31st B)

Wouldn't be a proper blockland forums thread without stuffting on people with autism spectrum disorders homoloveuals, I guess.

I'm just confused
why on earth would they need, or even want to know what pair of chromosomes you have
why would YOU want to know what they had?

common sense, duh.

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Modification Help / Re: Quite a few questions

« on: June 01, 2015, 08:22:06 PM »

2. How can I call a function client-sided when the client sends a servercmd?

I think what you're looking for is commandToServer

Code: [Select]

commandToServer('Self Delete');
commandToServer('messageSent', "Hello");

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Clan Discussion / Re: The Craftsmen: Revenge of the Melvics

« on: May 30, 2015, 11:10:25 AM »

amade can you make spells again

They're still available on the RTB archives. I don't currently have any interest in working on them

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General Discussion / Re: The Craftsmen's Stalkers vs Humans (Server up)

« on: May 16, 2015, 02:28:17 PM »

bump

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General Discussion / Re: Is learning TS useless?

« on: May 15, 2015, 05:37:40 PM »

TorqueScript is very, very messy compared to most languages. If you learn programming in TS you're going to have to get a grip on things like typing and type conversion later. I wouldn't really recommend it as a starting point if you want to learn to program "properly".

A lot of TS's syntax (mostly excepting prefixing all variables with %) very closely resembles that of Java/C. Most importantly, however, is that it's still a programming language. The important thing is learning to program, not learning a language. If you can do X in TS, it won't take you long to figure out how to do X in some other language.

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General Discussion / Re: The Craftsmen's Stalkers vs Humans

« on: May 10, 2015, 01:14:46 AM »

Capture the Artifact is now working. In addition, you can now earn legacy versions of the knives, which are identical to their non-legacy counterparts but use the original models that Crysist and I made.

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General Discussion / Re: The Craftsmen's Stalkers vs Humans (Server up)

« on: May 09, 2015, 11:37:21 AM »

lol'd hard

what is the point of this

Yesterday gripping shadows was ... popular.