two of those quotes you mentioned have some sense of sarcasm -which is the point of their joke in case you're the one being illiterate here- you refuse to comprehend for some loving reason, one of them is actually serious and relevant, which i never said no one pointed out what you're saying, i think you're overestimating one loving person for "everyone". two of them only said "there's no point in this" and "this is clan bullstuff" without any relevance to what you're saying here. guess which is which because this argument is going nowhere and i'm done with you.