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General Discussion / Re: Blockland Community getting more tribal?
« on: July 01, 2014, 08:29:41 PM »The ubiquity of the word monday is owed mainly to Black communities for accepting it as a dear of endearment to one another, thus integrating into the media, thus integrating into society.
I hear this argument a lot, and I just don't buy it. Maybe the prominent rappers are using the word "brother" as much as they can, but they in no way represent the majority of the black community. But it seems like a great deal of white people don't know any black people in real life, but do know of the black musicians. Of all the black people I know, none of them think using the word monday is cool, and are annoyed by its use. Maybe if you took a census of all black people in the US (and in the world), most people might be okay with it. I can't really say. But it's far from integrated into society, and most people acknowledge that it's a tribal phrase.
There is no family values in singular words, it doesn't work like that. A single word cannot hold a political idea. If the terms are used in their actual original uses then yes, that is tribal or homophobic
Using words which are historically tribal or homophobic, even if used out of a historical context, can still hold the weight of that history. Sure, many words have been watered down and become part of common use, but words like "monday" and "friend" are still very much being used against homoloveuals and black people. A word that has always been tribal doesn't just cease to hold any tribal meaning just because you interpret it as such. Language works in interesting ways, in that words tend to have whatever meanings or implications are placed upon them by society. The majority of society (rightly, I think) views the word "monday" as tribal, and so it shall remain for quite some time. You can argue against it, but good luck casually throwing out "monday" in conversation with someone and not being considered a tribal starfish.
No, I'm not delusional, you're just an idiot. You're making a blanket statement for an entire forum of people based on the actions of a few people that you can't even prove exist. When one person in a neighborhood turns out to be a murderer we don't label the entire neighborhood as 'potentially murderous'.
I was responding to your blanket statement. You know, the one where you said that the community isn't even slightly tribal? I specifically said that the majority of Blocklanders probably aren't tribal, but that there is definitely still racism here from some users, ergo your blanket statement was invalid. Please don't call me an idiot and then say something that's completely wrong. To reiterate: you made a blanket statement, I pointed out that the statement in question was simply false, and then you called me an idiot for making a blanket statement.
It's not a halfassed strawman, it's completely true. You are complaining about singular words and implying they're racism when they hold absolutely no political context behind them at all. That's just you being offended. This does not impact your life at all.
I said that I was annoyed by starfishs thinking that calling themselves trolls gives them a free pass to continue being starfishs. It's not that I'm personally offended, it's that it annoys me. Mosquitos and misuse of the word "literally" also annoy me, but they don't offend me. Someone can be bothered by stupidity without being offended by it. Stop trying to go the "you're offended" route, it's completely irrelevant anyway.
This does not impact your life at all.
Yes, it does. Maybe not personally, as I'm not typically subject to discrimination based on race. But I'd like to be in a community people are welcomed regardless of race or love or whatever. There are black people in this community (not many), but I doubt most black people would feel comfortable here if there were people calling one another mondays, or calling black people mondays.
And even if something doesn't seem to affect me, you can't always know for sure. Perhaps a black modder had considered coming to play the game, who would have created some fantastic gamemodes or weapon packs or whatever, but chose not to play because the community seemed tribal (and again, I'm not saying the whole loving Blockland community is tribal). It's unlikely, but these things can be more relevant that we think.
