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Off Topic / Re: Methinks i cracked the code of Christianity
« on: February 19, 2010, 04:23:29 PM »
Since all position is relative to other points in space, this is irrelevant.

It is not irrelevant. Earth did not need to be created where it was. It just turns out that it was created where it was. The coarse location of earth really doesn't matter.

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Off Topic / Re: Methinks i cracked the code of Christianity
« on: February 19, 2010, 04:15:19 PM »
If earth wasn't in this exact spot, if it was even a relatively small distance from where it was now, it wouldn't be able to sustain life.  There are so many factors involved in creating a life-sustaining planet such as ours that it is a statistical impossibility to happen like you describe.

I know that. He's including the fact that the earth is in this exact part of our galaxy in his calculation of how difficult it would be for this to happen. Which means that when all particles pass where the earth should be on their way back, there are no other chances. I was saying that the earth didn't necessarily have to be made in this exact part of the universe. As long as a planet contained all factors necessary for survival, that planet could have been earth.

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Off Topic / Re: Methinks i cracked the code of Christianity
« on: February 19, 2010, 04:09:08 PM »
Oh that.
If time is infinite, then distance between particles tends to the infinite, according to the expansion concept.

So, take a time considerably before that limit where the particles were still huge distances apart, but it had not reached infinity yet, and there simply wouldn't be anything close enough to react.
There would be a time where the particles would have to double back to get back to the spot where Earth was and try and make it. That is impossible unless they hit other particles, which is impossible as they all would have vectors of (even slightly) different direction.
You can cap the time, yet the Earth would not have to be made in the finite time you set to try and complete the infinite number of events until you reached one that resulted in the creation of the Earth.

This all assumes that you roll huge amounts of poor scores on dice with billions of sides and don't create the Earth when it was made.

Oh I see. You take the concept of "For the earth to be made in THIS EXACT SPOT, theres a low probability"

From your aspect of thinking, yes it is very improbable. But I was thinking more along the lines of the universe had many chances to create a planet able to sustain life, which would eventually have intelligent life. Though the chances of earth being where it is right now are relatively low, the exact position of earth and many other seemingly irrelevant factors should also be taken into account with that sort of logic. Like, the amount of sand on every beach on earth, and the amount of trees in every forest.

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Off Topic / Re: Methinks i cracked the code of Christianity
« on: February 19, 2010, 04:02:30 PM »
vague  (vg)
adj. vagu·er, vagu·est
1. Not clearly expressed; inexplicit.

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Off Topic / Re: Methinks i cracked the code of Christianity
« on: February 19, 2010, 04:00:50 PM »
ಠ_ಠ

I can make smileys too, look!

(>^_(>o-o)>

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Off Topic / Re: Methinks i cracked the code of Christianity
« on: February 19, 2010, 03:59:25 PM »

That made no sense.

Infinite by definition means unending, also

"Though, who says it's a limited amount of time? Aside from duck. (That isn't rhetorical.)

Just for clarification; "it" is "the amount of time the earth had to be created.""
Judgement day.

I was looking for more of a scientific explanation.

Also what do you mean that made no sense?

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Off Topic / Re: Methinks i cracked the code of Christianity
« on: February 19, 2010, 03:57:26 PM »
So, you are going to just go back and forth and back and forth on this?  Are you going with the guess that we had an infinite amount of time or are you going with the guess we had a limited amount of time?  Or will you give it up and go with the guess that says the earth was made in 7 days?

I dunno. I personally like the "guess" that it was made in a finite amount of time but actually had an infinite amount of time to be created. Although you still haven't answered my question. Even a simple, "no one knows gtfo" would suffice.

Exactly.

That made no sense.

If time is infinite, then distance tends to the infinite.

Also, quote your question, please.

Infinite by definition means unending, also

"Though, who says it's a limited amount of time? Aside from duck. (That isn't rhetorical.)

Just for clarification; "it" is "the amount of time the earth had to be created.""

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Off Topic / Re: Methinks i cracked the code of Christianity
« on: February 19, 2010, 03:53:37 PM »
You should say the same for yourself prick

How am I being vague? I make an attempt to elaborate anything I say. Even the statement I've quoted just now is vague, considering it lacks any supporting details.

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Off Topic / Re: Methinks i cracked the code of Christianity
« on: February 19, 2010, 03:52:20 PM »

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Off Topic / Re: Methinks i cracked the code of Christianity
« on: February 19, 2010, 03:50:17 PM »
If you believe that the universe is ever-expanding, then it doesn't. Eventually all particles would be tending towards a limit of infinity in terms of distance from each other.


Distance is not the same as time, my good sir.

Also I'm still interested in an answer to my question a page back.

Though, who says it's a limited amount of time? Aside from duck. (That isn't rhetorical.)

Just for clarification; "it" is "the amount of time the earth had to be created."

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Off Topic / Re: Methinks i cracked the code of Christianity
« on: February 19, 2010, 03:46:49 PM »
Yes you did admit it.

Quote me where I did, then.

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Off Topic / Re: Methinks i cracked the code of Christianity
« on: February 19, 2010, 03:44:24 PM »
You admitted it.
But seriously, it cannot be infinite as we are on Earth right now, and so it was made, so its 'construction time' was finite.

NO. Stop. I did not admit the earth did not have an unlimited amount of time to be created. I admitted it DID NOT USE an unlimited amount of time to be created.

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Off Topic / Re: Methinks i cracked the code of Christianity
« on: February 19, 2010, 03:42:23 PM »
When I think about it, why not have 2 of these topics

Why would we?

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Off Topic / Re: Methinks i cracked the code of Christianity
« on: February 19, 2010, 03:41:05 PM »
Well, so the probability of picking one in an infinite number of events, in a limited time is even less. :/
I really hated that sort of probability.

Though, who says it's a limited amount of time? Aside from duck. (That isn't rhetorical.)

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Off Topic / Re: Methinks i cracked the code of Christianity
« on: February 19, 2010, 03:37:25 PM »
I WASN'T DONE.
>:O
So you just admitted it took less time than its age, which was implied. Regardless, the probability of life being generated in such an automatic way is so infinitesimally small it is ridiculous to choose over something else.

No. I admitted it probably didn't take an infinite amount of time for earth to be created. :I

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