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if it ever appeared that i was making a claim that humans are near-100% nurture and insignificantly nature oops because that's silly and obviously not, but nurture is definitely a major factor to consider.

definitely

there are a lot of things that are purely cultural. gendered objects or symbols and the sort (not claiming that gendered objects and symbols are the only factors involved in this, it's an entire process and many parts of a person's experiences contribute). boys being given trucks, girls being given dolls, this kind of thing isn't a result of natural inclination, it's just part of gender socialisation.

They are given these toys because they want them and naturally are inclined to

obv males and females are biologically different in many ways, but it's not really fair to people as people to try and cause a kind of arbitrary divide when humans are so amazingly capable of aspiring for a kind of complex self-actualisation that other animals don't get to experience or strive for

It's not arbitrary though, as I've pointed out.

i wasn't really meaning to say that. i was conceding ignorance, not superiority to ignorance

alright sorry



good lord dooble

Anyway, I agree that there are definitely exceptions to the rule. I think that if a student isn't performing well, then they can switch them over to the other learning style and see if they do better, if they do worse then they switch them back and go on from there.

Regarding the slippery slope fallacy you admittedly used, it is quite possible that the system could be abused, but that's why we have to make sure we're teaching both lovees the same things, just different ways.

School is also where a lot of social skills are developed. love-separated schools wouldn't go well IMO. This problem could be remedied by having love-separated classrooms instead of love-separated school though.

I already explained what I meant: separated while being taught, together during recess/lunch/break/whatever.

That being said, I'm opposed to love separated classrooms as well, because even if loveual dimorphism exists,

loveual dimorphism does exist; there's no "if" about it.

it would suck if a girl who wanted to be an engineer or a guy who wanted to be a writer or whatever was discouraged from pursuing that.

What? I'm saying teaching them in different ways, not different things.

I think the way we have it now is plenty fine.

No. It's not. Boys are falling behind girls in schools because it heavily favors their learning style.



well it's specifically targeting women because women make up typically the less-equal love

This isn't necessarily true. It's just that society cares more about women and their issues than men and their issues. There are plenty of countries with men's and women's rights issues. People just tend to focus on women's issues because nobody gives a forget about men's problems

I don't like feminism, I just don't like it, some of them are just so loving biased it makes me want to punch the water off my desk.

easy there, tiger

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Creativity / Re: BROCKRAND COMICS: EPISODES OUT THE ASS
« on: May 23, 2015, 08:45:41 PM »
so??///

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There was a fairly odd parents episode about that


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electrk, you are making some good points, but i just feel that if you start keeping people apart at a young age, when you throw them back into the mix as an adult way more problems would occur.

I'm not saying separate them completely. Teach them separately, but they all take lunch/recess/break/whatever together.

Also, otto, I'm at work right now so I can't do a full response yet (I will though), but I will say that I do agree there are social stigmas and I do agree that nurture plays a role, but there are areas where I disagree where and how much.

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Games / Re: RuneScape Megathread - RGE EPISODE 11
« on: May 23, 2015, 03:36:52 PM »
holy stuff I remember this series

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there are still some pretty divisive views on what are "man jobs" and "woman jobs" which stop women from entering certain fields or professions, or raising to a higher level in their career path.
off the top of my head, women aren't really considered as heavily for roles that are more-so about 'leadership,' eg CEO or other executive positions.

maybe it's just that, and this is a crazy idea, humans are a loveually dimorphic species and the lovees have general leanings towards certain things

there have been studies that show that male newborns look at mechanical devices longer and female newborns look at faces longer
but clearly this is just the effects of social conditioning on the newborns

essentially it just kinda comes back to the whole traditional gender roles thing where women are expected to be homemakers. as a result, women are more so seen as useful for expressive tasks like teaching, while men are more so seen as useful for instrumental tasks like principal. obviously, of course, support for the idea of traditional gender roles has been on the decline for at least half a century now, and so the division caused has diminished as well

Why haven't we seen a significant increase in female entrepreneurs then? Why haven't we seen a massive influx of male teachers?

but it's still an issue for people on both sides. just as women might not be as likely to become a CEO, a man probably wouldn't be as likely to get a job dealing with children. it goes both ways.

yeah because he'd probably be labeled a child enthusiast

i'm kinda disinclined to believe that love biologically causes such a significant psychological difference in how people learn that would require an extreme measure of division

well that sucks that you "feel" that way, but men and women think and learn differently

deal with it

not that i've researched it or anything

research doesn't matter when you have your feels

i'll admit ignorance here, but it seems like a pretty high leaning towards nature as opposed to nurture. i'd be more likely to think that it's a result of the way kids are raised and more general genetics than male/female (speaking about a difference that's severe enough to justify segregation). but hey, i wouldn't be surprised if there were a subtle difference

Why are feminists so opposed to the idea that the lovees are different? Humans are a loveually dimorphic species, which is loving obvious and has been proven time and time again. We think differently, we act differently, we learn differently, we like different things... Is that a problem? No.

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Actually, segregating education by gender would be the best, since boys and girls learn in different ways. The current education system very much favors girls' way of learning which is why boys are falling behind.

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Creativity / Re: BROCKRAND COMICS: EPISODES OUT THE ASS
« on: May 23, 2015, 03:40:23 AM »
is your mom rosalina

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Off Topic / Re: BLF Dictionary
« on: May 23, 2015, 03:06:43 AM »
Gay:

Maxwell

1. Maxwell.

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Off Topic / Re: Racism
« on: May 23, 2015, 02:58:23 AM »
they don't

they call them brothers

I didn't realize you went to his school

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Off Topic / Re: ✵✴ - Forumer of the Day - ✴✵ | | DAY CX
« on: May 22, 2015, 07:51:46 PM »
incest is wincest

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Off Topic / Re: You autism you lose - YAYL
« on: May 22, 2015, 07:05:10 PM »
Blokx lost

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Off Topic / Re: You autism you lose - YAYL
« on: May 22, 2015, 03:34:30 PM »
we've all lost

electrk is cooler because hes not gay

B)

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