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You focus on all the reasons in the ban - and focused on the "10" bans in that 2 month period, you focused on it, not me, pal.
Sorry dude, but the way I see it you keep on hiding behind the fact that the ban claimed that it was ten bans, while it was actually seven. That's technically the main point why you think you should've been unbanned. I consider that focusiong onto it. Once again, as we have already claimed, seven bans is more than enough to get you perma banned.

I never said I didn't want to contact him? He was offline and I asked you for my banlogs, not to contact him.
If that is indeed the case then why did you complain about the fact that you had to speak to a 'messenger' of his, rather than Lego himself?

Also yes, I may not be able to mimic someones voice but I could tell people I am ill/have a cold/in pain from a battle.
I still do not think that, that's how it works. In my book, it is extremly rare when two people can mimic each others voice perfectly. Even if they are cold.

That's not the point, I was misled by an admin that the rule didn't apply at all.
While I don't know exactly what were you two talking back then, I feel like you're trying to play the victim card here. If an admins tells you that one of the rules don't apply, you should at least ask another about it, rather than taking advantage of it. You didn't even mention that Amir has mislead you in your ban appeal, nor when you got banned for metagaming, which leads me to believe that you actually didn't want it to be known by the admins, as you planned on keeping the method.
However I do have to give it to you that Amir was trurly not a good admin, and he did quite damaged the server's reputition.

Pretty sure the layout said to add one.
The ban appeal format doesn't mentions anything about needing to add any polls. Just because there's a button that says "Add poll" doesn't mean you neccesarily have to click it.

Stop reusing points I have already answered about 10 times please
You are yet to disprove most of them.

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Editing it in after it was denied doesn't help. Also keep in mind 1-3 of those bans were invalid, so that's still not 10. Also that wasn't in the 2 month period, that not I, but you, that's right - your admin team, focused on as stated in the ban.
As I have claimed before you didn't neccesarily need ten bans to get permabanned. Seven times have been more than enough to get you off the server permanently. We have also excluded all the bans that were 'invalid', and once again your ban logs do not clear after two months.

Why bother checking a topic if its been denied fully? I contacted you because you were the only admin online at the time and I needed my logs, not to contact Lego. Also faking his voice is easily possible via accidents or telling people you have a cold.
I think you should've checked it regardless, so you wouldn't call us out on stating that you have ten bans while we have already claimed otherwise. Once again, you said that you didn't want to contact Lego, but earlier you stated that you wanted to talk to him, rather than a messenger, and I don't quite think that faking voice is simple as that, I mean you may try your hardest but I don't think you can mimic Morgan Freeman's voice so amazingly that people would believe that you are indeed him.


+1 Invalid ban. I was misled by a trusted Super Admin that a rule was not to be listened to/followed, so I didn't know until the ban.
We knew that Amir was shady, but we didn't know about him also metagaming until you have reported it. You were banned for metagaming for another player on Steam.

Having a vote on a biased forum filled with "fans" of your server and your own admin team who will definitely support the admin(s) doesn't really show anything. I would edit in a vote but you cant edit in drama so RIP.
Once again, if you knew that the poll would end as such what was the point of adding it in the first place?



For the rest of you guys, you gotta' understand that we can't possibly come up with rules to please everyone, that's just not really possible. Players are usually most sensitive about the one related to RDM, it's quite hard to balance out because people want to kill other people, but they themselves don't want to die. The way the rule currently works is that if you have an actual valid reason to kill someone (such as there were conflict between you two, you were threatened by him or tortured and so on) then you may attack and kill him, however since no one really wants to lose their character that they spent so much time developing, we decided to unallow people to kill others if they don't have a valid reason to do so.

Another thing people seem to dislike are the laws related to towns, aka where can you and where can you not go. Keep in mind that those laws have been made by the players, as their characters. Laws aren't rules you would get banned for breaking, you could attempt to sneak in anywhere you want, but keep in mind that you are putting your character at risk if you do so.

In conclusion, I don't really think I can convince you guys to change your opinion on the server, so all I can say is that if you do enjoy playing on our server, we are happy to have you around; if you do not then we are sorry and truly hope you will find something else you will find fun.

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The fact that you guys admined amir of all people already cements how bad your server is
If you admin amir that essentally makes your server a perm no-go for me
I can clearly see where are you guys coming from as we received numerous complaints on Amir while he was still an Admin (Hell, even I did one while I was a regular player), and eventually we indeed ended up deadmining him, however I kind of feel like one person shouldn't be enough to ruin an entire server. Also don't get me wrong here, I am not trying to sound like "OUR SERVER IS THE BEST AND ALL CRITICISM IS INVALID", as the server isn't perfect and we are still working on making it better, but I'm sure you understand why would I get defensive when you claim that all of our admins are powertripping jerks who make up rule to ban people for in-character conflicts, dude

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A common problem with roleplay servers seems to be admins who get upset over events that happen in-character and pull rank to cause problems for the person who made them angry, usually through made-up rules.
I can assure you that I am yet to get mad at something that happened in-roleplay nor did I ever made up rules simply to ban someone.

I may sound rude here, but could you please stop making such claims as this, as well us administrating unfairly, while you do not know most of our staff, nor have you been on our server regularly. Don't get me wrong here, I am sure that you have created great things in Blockland yourself, but at the moment it really seems like that you are just trying to find an excuse to complain about the server and it's administration.

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I walk 2 steps with a new character ready to roleplay as a new character, get banned. Didn't do anything.
If you feel like your ban was unfair and you still remember who was the admin that banned you, I strongly encourage you to make a ban appeal.

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No, persisting to talk without providing any proof doesn't mean anything. Player base also doesn't mean anything in terms of server quality either. Tezuni's servers were almost constantly on the top of the player-list daily, I guess that means his server is 100% good in quality and administrating!
I'm sorry if this isn't the answer you expected, but I suppose the most effective way to check if our server is actually a quality one or perhaps a bunch of rubbish is to take some of your free time and try it out yourself. As there's no proof or evidence I could provide that would please everyone. I could take screenshots of the build but it wouldn't show the whole map, I could take pics and talk about our melee system, but it wouldn't be the same as playing with them yourself, I could dig up a .txt file of one of our daily logs, but I doubt that our playerbase would be okay with it. As takign it and posting it on a public webpage could just open up a source to Metagame. I may be wrong here but I can't think of any right proof.

So once again, I strongly encourage trying out the server before rating it's quality. You may end up actually liking it!

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Shameless, double-post. Sorry I didn't check for the newer posts. Scratch the comment about Amir, he is no longer apart of our Staff.

Not anymore. Just de-admined him.

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OP said that LegoPepper made up rules to ban him
I don't quite like screaming "LIAR!!!" when someone's point of view conflicts with mine, but that is simply not true. I can assure you that the rules did exist before he got banned. We get zero statisfaction from banning someone, as that just removes a player from our playerbase.

It's not his fault when players aren't able to play the server, but it becomes his fault when the admins are unhelpful hypocrites, power trippers, and ignoring concerns and criticisms because "It's free!!!"

Especially when the damn owner is so power hungry that they make up rules just to have a reason to ban someone.
Once again, I do believe that a server without the staff taking criticism would be a huge mess, and please don't picture as a bunch of lazy jerks who hide behind the fact that it's free to join. In-fact I'm pretty sure I am the only admin that would've put it that way.

Cue the self-proclaimed "serious roleplayers" who cry BAN HE! when regular members of the community happen to step on the many, many eggshells strewn about these stuffty roleplays.
I also thought of that, but I feel like if that was the case, more people would speak up about their opinion on the ban, as well as the administration. We do not ban or kick people for criticism, as long as it doesn't includes and sorts of falming that is.

Then again, you guys DO have amir as a super admin
Since you guys are apart of the community that we and our playerbase is also apart of, I think you deserve a honest answer.
Look, I personally don't really know Amir that much, we rarely even talked, I didn't follow any of his "adventures", and if I'm being honest I overall know very little about what does he even does when he isn't in the server, so I'm in no position to say if he's the biggest jerk or the sweetest person.
We at SapphireServers, believe in second chances, so we would rather keep him around until he really messes up, besides I am a simple admin, and I'm in no position to decide on who to accept or kick out of the staff.
If you guys really-really think that Amir shouldn't be apart of our staff and provide us information on your point of view, then I can promise that his rank will be discussed.

"Take my word for it"

That is not any proof and it does not support your claims. Actual proof would be to post chatlogs, talk to admins and stuff like that. Not "take my word for it" and repeating excuses.
You are partially right, as most of you hardly know me so my word doesn't means much for you guys, but we still have somewhat of a moderate playerbase compared to the amount of active Blockland players, and I'm still on this drama post trying to reason and talk to you lads. That just means something right?

im not a fan of lego's admin pals but its a bit excessive to expect them to have full logs of every conversation in case they get dramad
Your case was a great example where we've been wrong, even though I don't know most of the details, as I wasn't present when your ban has happened; we have accepted you ban appeal and you've been unbanned. We have confronted our staff about your case, and we promise (if my promise means anything) that it won't happen again!


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Just because a server is free to join, does not mean any complaints and concerns are automatically invalid. Just because you own the server does not mean you have full fledged rights to be an ass.
My point, since Noob Guitarist is completely missing it because he, too, is powertripping mad:

Placing the blame on your players for not being able to play your server is going to kill your server. If you think otherwise, then you are an idiot.
You guys indeed have a point, but just take my word for it; We aren't being powermad. We as the admins are concerned that we are just people, and that means that we also often make mistakes, as well as misunderstand things. That is the main reason why we have Ban Appeals, so players are able to prove that there's been situations where it was actually the admin who was in wrong. There's no shame in being wrong.
Furthermore, we strongly discourage "being an arse" as well as flaming, communication between our players and the staff team is the key to a succesful server. We often discuss what would the players would like to see next being added to our server.
But please try to understand that we didn't make the rules up with having our own fun in our heads. Sits exist so the players can explain if they feel like they didn't do anything wrong or if they didn't understand the rules. Also keep in mind that we (and by we I mean most of us) don't usually skip on the first rule breaks and minor ones. That's why warnings are apart of the server.
But as I previously mentioned we are just people, so I may actually be wrong, even here; but the way I see it, if the majority of people manages to understand and have fun by our rules, then I can't help but feel like they are rightful.

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Just because it's your party doesnt mean you can fling stuff at people
I'm sorry but I do not recall LegoPepper flinging stuffe at you.

I was not informed he was alive, I thought he was dead since I killed him. Continuous RDM is a lie as I was never given continuous bans for it in my 2 months, if you are talking about the months before I played in that 2 month period, that isnt what we care about currently, its focused on this 2 month period, as my ban states. The leaving in a sit was months before and I clearly told an admin that it was because I had to get off my PC to visit friends, I would rather go and have a life than stay on a game server - I do not mind if I was banned for it, but it was not to avoid a ban.
If you get banned for RDM, then you decide to RDM again, then again, I cannot help but see it as continuous RDM, and since you were still you two months before the ban, I still do believe that they should not be excluded, as we don't have any rules related to the ban logs getting cleared every two months. The one related to the sit is a tough one, as we we can't prove or disprove if you're telling the truth, so once again all I can say is that if you do know that you're about to leave, I discourage you to do anything that could lead to a sit. It just simply puts both you and the admin in an uncomfortable situation.

Its focused on 10 bans,  you yourself admit I have 7- bans, how do you disagree with that? I remember getting one warning because I actually broke a rule and the second by accident, but the third one was probably before I started on the 2-month period.
Once again, I never stated that it's been ten bans, it has been seven bans and three warns, and before you say that we lie; this wasn't a secret that we kept silent, in-fact LegoPepper openly apologised for the typo.

Before you say that you didn't see this, it has been posted three days after you posted your ban appeal on our forums. You were not banned off of them at that time. The only possible way I can think of that would lead to you not seeing it would be if you simply didn't care enough to check it daily.

I contacted you once asking for the banlogs when I was banned from the forums and you dismissed me so I didnt bother replying.  I wanted to speak to LegoPepper and not one of his messengers, as you said - he decides who joins and who doesnt apparently.
I must ask, if you didn't want to speak to a "messenger" but instead to LegoPepper himself, why did you bother to text me? I am clearly not LegoPepper.

You can put an eyepatch on your face without losing an eye. The beard was part of the decal with the eyepatch, If the decal didnt have the beard, I wouldnt have used it. Also I never changed diguise on the run, only when I reached a house I would - I fail to see how you remember something about one singular user on a server with hundreds per day, about 3-4 months ago? Maybe that is why some of your 'facts' are incorrect.
I am sorry to tell you this but my "facts" come from numerous sources, such as other staff members as well as our players. You may call me unfair here, but the way I see it the face change shouldn't have even came to idea, as realistically people would still recognise someone's face with or without an eyepatch. Then again if you claim that I am unable to remember something that happened 3 - 4 months ago, then how can you be so sure that you remember perfectly?

He was wearing armour that covered most of him, people wouldnt have been able to recognize the face, plus I didnt even change the face, only my clothes.
I am going to take your side on this one, and let's say that his face was completly covered, and your character had the same height, but even then; realistically speaking, how could have he fake his voice?

I killed an admin because his guards attacked attacked me and someone else because I was wanted, and that pissed him off apparently because I got banned.
I cannot leave a comment on this one, as I wasn't on the server when this happened, nor do I have the logs for it.

This I actually did do, despite I didnt know it was bannable, as previous to this Amir, a super admin had done this to me on numerous occasions.
Once again, I cannot deffend against this one. Amir has already lost his Super Admin rank, and he will be confronted about this one too.

I wasnt the only person who did this, atleast 50 other players did, including some admins during a siege.
Just like previously, I was not present when said events happened, so I cannot provide any information on this one.

I wasnt the only person who did this, atleast 50 other players did, including some admins during a siege.
I apologise if I may offend you, but if you truly have better things to do, then why does this drama thread exist?

I didn't want to mention this, as it may sound like flaming, but on your ban appeal you hosted a little poll if the playerbase thinks that your ban was rightful, two people voted with "No", one person voted with a neutral answer and thirteen people have voted positively. Our playerbase just simply doesn't wants you on the server, as very few of them actually enjoyed playing with you.



And now to answer to some other people;

You can't pay for players to join your server.
Indeed, you couldn't be more right about this. Our Medieval Roleplay server is free to join and will always be!
What I actually meant was that I don't quite see why do people think that the owner of the server himself shouldn't have the right to ban them, when they didn't contribute to it at all. If you would get an ice cream for entirely free, you wouldn't complain that it's not your favourite flavour, would you?

Noob Guartist's reply sounds so automated that its making me think he's a bot
Yup, the reason for that is because this whole thing is not personal, and I don't think that it should be taken personally.
We don't know Paint, he could be the sweetest person in real life, but he has broken our server's rules and for that he has been banned. I personally strongly dislike when admins take players breaking rules as a personal insult, likewise I can't stand players who think that getting banned from our servers should be taken as an offense. In my opinion that just proves immaturity.

this is against the rules
My bad again. However if you visit our page and scroll down, the Ban Appeals should be easy to found. It's right under "Managment"

do you write master theses in your free time?
Technically yes. Most of you guys hardly have been on the server and / or don't even know most of our staff. I want to prove you lads, that we aren't that bad, sacrificing a little bit of my free time for that is a fair trade off.

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It doesn't though. I recall stealing armor once and fighting a guard when he found out, then getting banned for "rdm". The server is a boring piece of stuff and a perpetual drain on the playercount of everything else.
We are trurly sorry if you didn't enjoy your time on our server, however if you really feel like your ban hasn't been rightful, don't be shy to post a ban appeal here!

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Well here we go again.

First of all, I would like to point out that it wasn't just LegoPepper who decided to ban you, we as the Admins on the server have came to the conclusion that it was a valid reason to get permabanned for. Some of you guys may disagree with me here, but LegoPepper is the owner of the server, so I would say that he has all the rights to ban people from the server after as many bans and warnings as you did, you don't pay a single penny for the server, dude. If you would own a car or a house of your own, that you paid for with your own money, don't you think that you should be given the power to decide who can enter and who cannot?

First of all I would like to point out that the reason you listed here is quite semi-honest. You indeed did the said action, however it was more your previous warns and bans that got you off the server. You see, you kind of exploited a little feature* we had, by "disguising", and it wasn't the first time either, furthermore it was already stated in the rules that you SHOULD NOT be able to disguise as living characters, as it'd lead to unfair outcomes**. You have been warned and even banned for numerous reasons, such as continous RDM***, Metagaming****, exploiting***** and even leaving in a sit****** to avoid the consequances.

In the second paragraph you seem to complain about the your unfair bans in the logs, as well as claiming that LegoPepper shouldn't have banned you, as you didn't have a total of ten bans. I can't help but simply disagree with it, please keep in mind that there never was and never will be a rule that states that we can only permaban people who had over ten bans, for this reason I took the time and effort to search onto your logs, and I can confirm that you have been banned seven times, and had three warnings, most of which for the same reason. That has lead us to believe that you either simply disrespect the rules or are unable to learn from your very own mistakes. At the end of this report you even claim that you deserved to be banned off our forums, but doesn't that terminates the main reason of this drama thread then?

The third paragraph is simply a lie. You have contacted me numerous times shortly after you've been banned and I replied to you. I even listed the bans to you, however you decided to go silent after I claimed that I actually do agree with the ban logs.

Keep in mind that our main goal at Sapphire Servers is to provide a fair and fun game for most people to enjoy, realism is our second highest priority.

* "Little feature" - Basically by the time Paint was playing, we allowed the players to change their characters' name whenever they wanted, this was supposed to be used to change characters, so you wouldn't have to play as the very same character again. However what Paint has used it to avoid conflict. What he has been doing was to cause conflict, change his decals and then also change his name. This way the players who were looking for him had no way of figuring out that it was actually him. In-fact, he was so much of a master of disguise that he didn't only manage to fully change his clothes while running, but also shave and grow out a lost eye. This feature has been removed, since realistically people should've been able to recognise him by his face. This feature has been removed.

** "Unfair outcomes" - With the mentioned feature you would've been able to take the name of someone else, which would be unrealistic, as your characters' face wouldn't look the same, and also unfair for the person whose name was being taken, as if it was allowed anyone could ruin any other characters' fame.

*** "RDM" - RDM stands for "Random Deathmatch", it is when you attack and / or kill someone without having a valid reason to do so. We understand that the medieval times were agressive and rough, but I doubt anyone would like to lose his character that he spent so much time on developing to someone who simply attacked them because they got bored.

**** "Metagaming" - Metagaming is when you use or spread information that your character wouldn't know / the others' character wouldn't work. This contains telling other people where you are, if you're in trouble, or simply posting in-character information on any out of RP chat. This simply gives an unfair advantage.

***** "Exploiting" - Exploiting is when you simply know of a glitch and decide to use it as an advantage. As you may know, you are able to leave notes behind on walls for others to read, however back in October the notes had collision to them. Which meant that you could jump onto them, as well as place them on doors to block people from coming out. These are obviously unrealistic. This has been fixed.

****** "Sit" - If you have broken a rule and get reported, instead of us banning you we pull you into a sit, where you and the "victim" can tell what happened from your point of view, so the admin can judge who's actually in right. As you can imagine, leaving in a sit is not recomended, as it easily seems that you are just simply trying to avoid conflict. If you do know that you have to go shortly, we discourage you to start conflict or to attack anyone.



To reply to Lord Tony;

First of all I do believe that you and LegoPepper had a little chat about playing bandits, in which you were asked if you read the rules, to which you replied with simply "no".

On the other hand, we do understand why would you guys want to play bandits. Being bandit is quite exciting, as your life would be made up of fighting and hiding, and who wouldn't like to play a little game of action and stealth? However our Medieval RP server, is still an RP server, which means that the main focus should always remain developing your characters. We, as the staff found it quite unfair to lose your character you spent so much time building to a bandit who simply attacked him for his gold. Sorry, but once again, we have to put the game's fairness above realism.

HOWEVER, if you do tell them to give them their money, and drop their items, but they refuse to, you ARE ALLOWED to attack and kill them.

Thanks and have fun.

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You do know how does the wiki works, right?

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I can't wait to feel like an idiot, after this riddle is solved.

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