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Off Topic / Re: Oklahoma Food Company recalls over 372,000 lbs of Hot Dogs & Corn Dogs

« on: July 21, 2016, 08:31:52 PM »

I'm not saying meat will make you fat. I'm saying that if you stop eating it, you'll lose weight in 99% of cases.

Not until you most some sort of scientific source that doesn't contains the words "kids health".

I posted multiple sources, and this is common knowledge. I'm not here to do research for you, dude.

honestly if i had to pick between a animal surviving or a human surviving

human > everything else

Yea, obviously. Are you suggesting Vegans would save animal lives over humans?

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Off Topic / Re: Oklahoma Food Company recalls over 372,000 lbs of Hot Dogs & Corn Dogs

« on: July 21, 2016, 08:30:21 PM »

I remember you telling me you ate bacon over steam once so idk

Uh? I have before, but not since I stopped eating meat. It's one of the few meat products I still think looks good. I eat a lot of tofu bacon.

Are you daft or what? My whole argument has been that being a vegan isn't inherently healthier than not being a vegan. Nor is losing weight something that would make everyone healthier, so I don't see why you're using that point to argue what I'm saying.

No, it's not inherently healthier, because a vegan could eat nothing but Salt and Vinegar Potato Chips. It's healthier in 99% of cases. Happy?

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Off Topic / Re: Oklahoma Food Company recalls over 372,000 lbs of Hot Dogs & Corn Dogs

« on: July 21, 2016, 08:27:08 PM »

Usually meat intake makes up a huge percentage of someone's calory intake. If you replace that intake with less fatty foods, aka not-meat, you will lose weight. This is why 99% of vegans lose weight.

Weight loss is a symptom of malnourishment.

You can undereat on any diet. Let's not act like malnourishment is exclusive to veganism. Most anorexic people are omnivores.

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Off Topic / Re: Oklahoma Food Company recalls over 372,000 lbs of Hot Dogs & Corn Dogs

« on: July 21, 2016, 08:23:34 PM »

If you somehow don't think you'll lose weight by cutting meat from your diet, you're lying to yourself. You asked for sources, and I posted them. 99% of vegans will lose weight. That's the main reason most people go vegan. You can make better arguments than this.

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Off Topic / Re: Oklahoma Food Company recalls over 372,000 lbs of Hot Dogs & Corn Dogs

« on: July 21, 2016, 08:18:36 PM »

Which is exactly why you shouldn't claim that you (or any other vegan/vegetarian) are somehow inherently healthier than someone who isn't.

What? No, I said that cutting meat intake will make you lose weight. Which is true of almost everyone. Are you seriously going to say that my claims were false because some people eat 5 bags of potato chips a day? If you replace meat with a diet of fruits and vegetables, literally everyone will lose weight. You're nitpicking on an insane level.

Well to be fair the website matches the demographics of the BLF

Gotta stay healthy

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Off Topic / Re: Oklahoma Food Company recalls over 372,000 lbs of Hot Dogs & Corn Dogs

« on: July 21, 2016, 08:15:55 PM »

I'm sure depending on your diet, it's possible a majority of your fat is from sources other than meat--however the point was that cutting off meat intake would drastically reduce your daily calorie count and cause you to lose weight. You can always nitpick those statements because everyone has a different diet.

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Off Topic / Re: Oklahoma Food Company recalls over 372,000 lbs of Hot Dogs & Corn Dogs

« on: July 21, 2016, 08:07:19 PM »

Source?

It's pretty common knowledge, but okay.

http://kidshealth.org/en/kids/fat.html

Fat is a component in food. Some foods, including most fruits and vegetables, have almost no fat. Other foods have plenty of fat. They include nuts, oils, butter, and meats like beef.

Also, a list of the highest-fat foods:



Being vegan will definitely make most people lose weight.

You know he won't post one

Checkmate, carnivore.

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Off Topic / Re: Oklahoma Food Company recalls over 372,000 lbs of Hot Dogs & Corn Dogs

« on: July 21, 2016, 08:01:34 PM »

The forget man, I responded in a very articulated matter and you didn't even acknowledge anything I said. You just kept telling me to calm down and that I'm "usually better than this" in a stuffty attempt to make me angry or something.

Yea, I naturally got a little pissed when you accused me of something blatantly false. I posted the exact quotes, and you ignored it completely in favor of hilarious vegan jokes.

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Off Topic / Re: Oklahoma Food Company recalls over 372,000 lbs of Hot Dogs & Corn Dogs

« on: July 21, 2016, 07:59:23 PM »

I'm not sure what you guys are going for. Like one day you'll create the perfect BLF poster that hits just the right spot and I'll get upset over a photoshop.

Yes

I'm actually pretty sure your right. Both diets are fine as long as they are balanced, however most fat is from meat and you'll become noticeably skinnier on a standard vegan diet. That's where my health claims came from.

Of course, a vegan diet could also be potato chips and french fries. It's not all peas and carrots.

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Off Topic / Re: Oklahoma Food Company recalls over 372,000 lbs of Hot Dogs & Corn Dogs

« on: July 21, 2016, 07:56:18 PM »

I didn't though, I gave a reason why I'm not "debating you in a mature" manner but you conveniently disregarded it as a personal attack. As far as the post on page 13, you immediately responded with a self-righteous jab and told me to "calm the hell down". If anyone's keeping the argument going, it's you lol

Really? Because I could swear you devolved into buzzwords and ignored everything I said when I responded cogently to you.

Ike, I don't think anyone has really argued over veganism in more than a full page. So coming in here and saying that we need to cut off the discussion that's been dead for half a day shows an extreme lack of self awareness. Maybe you should chill the hell out if you want people to stop arguing.

I came in arms swinging. Right.
No dude, you're just insecure. If you don't want people to argue, don't argue.

Well I mean, you kind of did have an autistic meltdown when people responded poorly to your ""joke""

kind of like every other forgetin meltdown you have when you get into arguments with people. It's kind of your thing now

Are you for real, dude? An autistic meltdown?
~quotes totally normal posts~
That's blatantly false

I'm not going to give you credit by taking you seriously. You wanna act like a baby? You're gonna get treated like a forgetin baby

Who are you? I've never seen you outside of this thread, and all you've done is post images and edge.

I think he's one of the Discord handicaps that tend to follow me around so they can make hilarious and relevant memes.

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Off Topic / Re: Oklahoma Food Company recalls over 372,000 lbs of Hot Dogs & Corn Dogs

« on: July 21, 2016, 07:49:03 PM »

Ike, everyone had chilled until you lost your stuff and re-ignited the argument on page 13. Now you're really going to sit here and act like you wish this thread was still On-Topic?

I've literally done nothing but respond to posts targeted towards me, dude. You've continuously ignored my points and gone back to a single comment 13 pages ago, and continued this false narrative that I think meat-eaters are bad people. No matter how many times I tell you and others that is not the case, you'll continue this bullstuff forever. This is why "Angry Vegan" stereotypes exist. Because as soon as they even mention they've got a particular diet, everyone loses their stuff and assaults them and their beliefs. If they respond, everyone acts as though they're the one carrying the argument.

What a hilarious and substantive response to what I've said. You're better than Maxx. You can make good points.

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Off Topic / Re: Oklahoma Food Company recalls over 372,000 lbs of Hot Dogs & Corn Dogs

« on: July 21, 2016, 07:41:35 PM »

i don't remember mczealot being this much of a richard before.

I think you should look at this rationally. I'm being swarmed with personal insults and users saying they will eat steak just because they know I think it's wrong. Anything insulting I've said is absolutely dwarfed in comparison to the vegan-hate train.

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Off Topic / Re: Oklahoma Food Company recalls over 372,000 lbs of Hot Dogs & Corn Dogs

« on: July 21, 2016, 07:39:08 PM »

While you never explicitly said that you were morally superior, you damn well implied it.

No, and I addressed that several times.

Dec, pretty much every point you made there seems to rely on this belief that I think people are good or bad.

If I say "It's good to donate to charity" that doesn't mean I think people who don't donate to charity are bad people. If someone said "I think it's a moral thing to go to church" they aren't saying people who don't go to church are bad people.

Yea, I think it's wrong to eat meat. Because as I've said, it's cruel to cause unneeded pain and death. I don't bring this up very often. I don't hate meat eaters, I don't even know any other vegans online. Let's not sit here and act like vegans hate meat-eaters.

It's obvious that users are offended because they feel threatened. It's exactly the same way gun-rights advocates respond in the same scenario.

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Off Topic / Re: Oklahoma Food Company recalls over 372,000 lbs of Hot Dogs & Corn Dogs

« on: July 21, 2016, 07:36:29 PM »

I've never said I'm morally superior to anyone else. Grow the hell up Ike. I've refuted everything you've said, and as you run out of responses you slowly replace genuine thought with unwarranted attacks. I don't take arguments personally. You should learn to do the same.

You've also been pretty pathetic yourself.

I usually just ignore the Discord handicaps when they stuff up a thread. All they can post are stuffty memes anyway

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Off Topic / Re: Oklahoma Food Company recalls over 372,000 lbs of Hot Dogs & Corn Dogs

« on: July 21, 2016, 07:27:33 PM »

Ike, you're acting unusually pathetic in this thread. I've never seen you devolve into dismissive personal attacks on any sort of scale like this. It takes a much bigger man to admit when their wrong than it does to mock someone's beliefs.

This sort of behavior is typical of Maxx, and I think most users will just ignore him. But you? You're not one of them.