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Off Topic / Re: Israel VS Hamas
« on: December 06, 2023, 02:17:57 PM »did you not see the video where Hamas shoves a bunch of civilians in front of them as meatshields while continuing to shoot at the israelis and the israeli army doesn't just open fire?no but i saw the video where an adolescent woman was filming israeli soldiers from her window and they decided to light her entire window up with gunfire. also saw the video where israel carpet bombed an entire truck convoy of refugees fleeing from the exact place they told them to evacuate.
there's a difference between "terrorist living in the house across the street" and "literally an entire tunnel network under your entire neighborhood that contains hundreds of terrorists and their stockpiles and infrastructure".what isn't different between the two scenarios, is the civilians lack of knowledge of hamas' infrastructure. the people being killed do not know there is a complex tunnel system under their house. how could they know? hamas isn't just going around telling everyone "hey we're storing several megatons of explosives under your toddler's nursery, just so you have the right to know"
israel does put effort into warning civilians before their strikes. however, the time period they give for people to evacuate is incredibly short and the entire process isn't thorough enough to ensure that every person in the building is notified. israel needs to be deploying leaflets, sending people into buildings with gurneys and EMTs to evacuate the sick, elderly and young who are unable to evacuate themselves.
so what the forget do you think Israel should do when Hamas is firing rockets out of an apartment building and using schools as munitions stockpiles, wiseass?anything but explosives. if you know a school, with civilians inside, is being used as a munitions stockpile, why the forget would you blow it up? israel knows the secondary explosive charges are guaranteed to cause even more collateral damage. they should be resorting to warfare that doesn't have the capacity to obliterate everything nearby. if Benjamin Netanyahu were inside that very school that hamas was using as an ammo dump, do you think israel would still resort to using explosives, that could possibly kill him? if not, why is it that they don't show any restraint when it comes to civilian children?
so let me get this straight, when hamas goes on rape, murder, and torture sprees and brags about it and makes it 2000% clear they're going to do it again every time they get anything remotely resembling an opportunity, you want Israel to NOT try to get rid of hamas? no. forget that.i want a third party to completely dismantle hamas and israel's government without the use of explosives, chemical warfare or civilian casualties. both governments are run by tribal, far-right xenophobes who have a complete disregard for the lives of others. they are both supreme threats to each other, themselves, and all human rights in the middle east. neither should have power.
everyone remember this too: the source on the number of civilian deaths is the hamas-run health ministry. they blame literally every single dead palestinian on "israeli aggression" regardless of actual cause of death, including the palestinians that hamas gunned down for trying to flee to escape being used as meatshields. they also claim all deaths are innocent civilians, when the number actually includes plenty of their militants.regardless of your theories about falsified statistics, most human rights organizations put the estimate of palestinian civilians dead at above 10,000. that number is super realistic, considering the footage of their bombing campaign, the civilian casualties (so many young children with their brains blown out), and the general landscape of gaza right now
there's no loving way a city with over 1 million people can look like this and not have death reaching the tens of thousands. even without the excessive bombing, people are dying every minute of starvation, infection, Self Delete, crime, and most of it isn't being reported because of the extreme danger of gaza and its awful living conditions. 10,000 is a realistic estimate, 15,000 is more of a propaganda estimate. either way, israel's war has caused almost 10x as many civilian casualties as hamas' attack on october 7. that's like, one Al-Aqsa Flood a week, for 2 months. in the first 2 days after october 7th, israel had already managed to cause as many civilian deaths than hamas.
i should also point out that israeli soldiers never raped anyonerape is guaranteed during war. there may not be footage of israeli soldiers raping anyone, but it's definitely happened at some point during the conflict. every army (im not making this up) ever to go to war has armed individuals responsible for rape, mass rape or Flash Mob. psychopaths and sadists always end up in military service one way or another, and during the most violent of operations, they are the first to commit the atrocities.
unlike hamas, israel doesn't use rape as a tool of warfare. that doesn't mean that israeli soldiers don't rape people. there's already ample footage of israeli forces damaging/decapitating/needlessly shooting the corpses of enemy combatants. there's footage of israeli soldier tossing grenades into a mosque during prayer. the idea that multiple rapes have been perpetrated by israeli soldiers is plausible, but hamas has likely commit more love crimes than israel has.
