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Off Topic / Re: would you kill mesothelioma
« on: July 15, 2020, 10:53:14 AM »
We should put a flux capacitor in a breaking bad type RV

The burning houses brown townogy is bullstuff because it assumes that saying black lives matter or supporting the “movement” is equivalent to spraying water on a fire. It’s saying that it’s actually a solution to a perceived problem, which it isn’t at all.

Forum Games / Re: Describe the above user's avatar with one word v2
« on: July 15, 2020, 09:19:25 AM »

Off Topic / Re: would you kill mesothelioma
« on: July 14, 2020, 10:25:59 PM »
Hurr durr bEcAuSe hE liKEs hiltlar

Killing mesothelioma would accomplish nothing except for paving the way for another smooth talker to take over Europe. If it wasn’t mesothelioma doing things at the time that he did them, it would have been someone else manipulating and committing atrocities - whether during the 40’s or later on.

Also the UN wouldn’t exist and the world would probably have a forget ton more wars and skirmishes to confront

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Drama / Re: Cheesepizza2 - Bad faith poster
« on: July 10, 2020, 04:09:13 PM »
time to end politics and the government once and for all
Kill everyone

Off Topic / Re: Supreme Court gives half of oklahoma away.
« on: July 10, 2020, 09:41:46 AM »
Muh people

not only have I never said anything like that to you but also you're stupid
no u

Games / .
« on: July 10, 2020, 09:32:49 AM »

Drama / Re: Cheesepizza2 - Bad faith poster
« on: July 10, 2020, 09:29:25 AM »
thing is master matthew still spews politics every now and then, probably because his diaper rash gets him acting up or sumn
Why do you guys only cry when it’s conservative politics?

Drama / Re: Cheesepizza2 - Bad faith poster
« on: July 08, 2020, 01:30:07 PM »
Not like he's being purposefully inflammatory on discord and starting political arguments for the sake of starting them by insulting the beliefs of people who are chatting about something entirely different, going into political threads and spouting unsubstantiated opinions and then deflecting everyone who responds to him with mocking ignorance with such precision idiocy that he doesn't even respond to what was brought up in the post, but instead creates a strawman of something entirely different, among other things. Nooooo. Couldn't be that.
You’re just verbose-ifying things already said.
Lots of people make edgy jokes, why are we targeting him for making edgy jokes? If he annoys you, fine. He annoys me too. We don’t have to make everyone that annoys us a crusade against people that don’t think exactly like we think.

Drama / Re: Cheesepizza2 - Bad faith poster
« on: July 08, 2020, 10:13:42 AM »
The only problem I see here is getting political when it’s irrelevant
There will always be people making jokes about the LGBTQQIP2SAA+ Premium ($2.99) movement and other edgy jokes, people do it all the time here, not just cheese
It’s also hypocritical to rail on him for making jokes that target people while literally targeting him

police get 100 billion in funding.

While everything else gets nothing
I don’t think Tony knows how budgeting works

So according to these statistics which don’t take any factors into account other than race and income (so much for historical nuances), there is a wage gap between averages of people with white skin and averages of people with black skin.
What should we do about that? There are a ton more whites in the country than non-whites according to Drydess’s data, which means the average poverty rate for the larger sample (whites) will more likely be less by default.
Should we boil it down to “systemic racism”?
Maybe we should start killing whites so that the gap starts closing.

That was a joke
In all seriousness though, I’m not great with economics but maybe as a temporary measure we could raise wages for people getting out of welfare. Like, give companies that hire them a bit more money to incentivize hiring them (not based on race, but on economic status) and part of that money has to go to the ex-welfare employee’s wages. That gives the company incentive and the worker incentive, seems like a win-win to me idk
Or you could make a privately funded union for blacks getting out of welfare that gives them extra wages for a while. The only stipulation is that you don’t go back to welfare.
That sounds really crude but we’re talking about how to end systemic racism or what is perceived as such. Giving people handouts isn’t being equal, it’s telling poor people (many of whom happen to be black) that they can’t succeed because “the system won’t let you” and rewarding them for being in poverty. Time and time again there have been hardworking black Americans that have gotten out of poverty and done great things, even despite actual segregation and laws that were corrupt. Maybe if we stopped telling people with black skin that they can’t get ahead, rewarding failure, and creating reliance on government we might see wage gaps start to close.

This is all my opinion so I’m not saying that it’s completely flawless.
I’m willing to accept the fact that a wage gap based on race exists, but I’m not willing to go along with the idea that “If you don’t go about fixing that problem in the way that I think it should be done then you’re exploiting blacks for your benefit - you’re part of the oppressive proletariat system Hurrrr”

To sum it up to "they are saying blacks only matter therefore i should respond with all lives matter" is incredibly simplistic, naive and ignorant.
That’s not what I think they’re saying. What they are saying is that lives of people who are black do, indeed, matter. And with that is the implication that anyone who disagrees with the execution of their movement thinks that black lives don’t matter. It’s an unfair term, like “pro-life” and “pro-choice” are. It’s putting a negative light on everyone who isn’t them.

>It's hard to have a conversation when people are ignorant and dismissive without even noticing that they are.

Christ, every supporter of the movement that I know has said something like this, assuming that anyone who disagrees with the conclusions they draw knows absolutely nothing. Why do we have to treat each other like children? Talking about “historical nuances” and stuff, let’s come back down to earth please instead of taking the holier than thou attitude. This is 2020, not the 1800’s and not the 60’s. It seems like blm is for combatting modern racism as we see it, not combating segregated drinking fountains or slavery.

>Can you elaborate as to why "a system in which whites tend to get more desirable results on average" is not clearly bad for you?

No, because that wasn’t the point of that statement in context.

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