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Off Topic / Re: [NEWS] Annoying Orange has 2 scoops of ice cream.

« on: May 12, 2017, 10:47:20 AM »

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Off Topic / Re: POLITICS & DONALD Annoying Orange MEGATHREAD

« on: May 12, 2017, 10:31:54 AM »

want video

doesn't address the point i made. the circumstances have changed greatly AND the tweet criticizing donald Annoying Orange's decision was written by a staff member, not bernie

https://youtu.be/Bapp45Vx0UE?t=2117

"evil 1%" for you, peeps

disregarding the fact that you buy healthcare for yourself and not for other people, Sanders didn't even ask the woman her income or the income of the business, or what her profit margins were, never mind that she couldn't even pay for healthcare on an individual basis

also, what's worse? a ton of people employed who, IDK, don't necessarily have good healthcare but eh, or a few people employed with "really good healthcare" and the rest of the group jobless and broke?

businesses still have an obligation to provide health care for their employees, if you can't do that much then you shouldn't expand. that's the reality of our current situation as a country trying to transition to socialist functions while still being held back by the detrimental effects of capitalism.

what the forget are you talking aboutthat's the definition of socialism, not "social democracy"

the forget are YOU talking about? you realize a "socialist democracy" entails the same thing as socialism, but with a more democratically-focused government, right? (rhetorical question, you evidently haven't done much research into this.)

you realize the great depression ended when the US started mass production of equipment for WWII right
and that by proxy the economic heaven that was the 50s would not exist otherwise, right
right
RIGHT

oh and btw the workers were working for their family and friends fighting during the war not for the government's "mischievous and devious purposes"

right, so literally exactly what i said? what in your response warrants the stuffty smug reaction picture? you just described the USA profiting off of wars to gain economic superiority, which is nearly verbatim my point.

i also find it weird that you consider being told that you will have to work harder to produce these instruments of war or else you will be fired a willing and noble triumph of all the american people. keep in mind that the workers who created this "economic heaven" barely licked the crumbs off of the plate of america's vast wealth after world war 2. america would be nothing without its workers at that point, and yet a portion of those workers are stuck licking the boots of the superpower they created.

yes

hate to burst your bubble but innovation is fueled by the rich
because initial concepts and prototypes for innovations are so expensive as a matter of fact, the only people that can buy and test them are the rich
not to mention the rich can fund projects they like or that they think will help society

like i said, the ONLY reason that rich people fuel innovation is because they're the only ones that have access to the means by which they CAN create innovation. imagine if everybody had that capability. statistically, innovation would be guaranteed to increase, because there's literally more people working towards it without being held back by whether or not they got a nice inheritance from their parents or not.

what innovation have you seen in communist countries like Russia as opposed to America? relatively none

are you kidding me dude? russia literally won the space race. russia was the first country to send a satellite into space, the first country to send a man into orbit, and they even ended up with more nuclear arms than us at the end of the cold war. they continue to have more, even now. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_with_nuclear_weapons)

companies will literally loving pay engineers to take apart other companies' products and brown townyze them so that those technologies can be used in their products

as an engineering student, I know what I'm talking about
you can't "keep secrets" from people, we will find it the forget out

again, imagine how much more convenient it would be if you didn't have to literally rip apart and scrutinize a company's RELEASED products (you fail to mention purposefully withheld / unreleased products, which allows them to essentially control the direction of the market when they release these products), and instead this was all just knowledge and information available to everyone? at some point it just becomes common sense that letting everybody access a pool of knowledge allows for the expansion of this knowledge.

I thought about it for a literal second and then ditched it for the model that's worked successfully for centuries
sorry

so you recognize there is a validity in my assertion, but you decide to completely loving blow it off in favor of upholding the status quo?
nice one, jackass.

can you point me to those countries because when I look at Europe I see companies and industry leaving en masse and when I look south I see society collapsing

the proof is in the pudding my dude

better yet, let's put the common worker into a multinational corporation's leading position and grab the popcorn

alright? even if socialism did imply that everybody was placed in the position of a CEO, what would be the problem if they were just as educated and trained as the CEO, as socialism entails inherently? unless you're operating under the rancid assumption that CEO's are just superior people by default due to their ability to reach this position, i really don't see the problem.

aw dude I was hoping someone would post a reaction img like that but it was just a nuclear explosion

the fact that you consider any of that worthy of some kind of "blown the forget out" reaction is embarrassing and possibly reflective on how little you actually know if you really think you just obliterated socialism with that post.

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Off Topic / Re: POLITICS & DONALD Annoying Orange MEGATHREAD

« on: May 11, 2017, 11:54:20 PM »

I mean, having massive wealth inequality is symptomatic of market failures. When there is well-enough money in society to keep people housed and healthy, but they aren't, that's a failure of the system. But in fairness, I don't think the solution is to tax the wealthy to death. Perhaps we should focus initially on making it so the wealthy don't cheat on their taxes as much as they do currently?

its a step in the right direction, but further socialization is near inevitable once that step is taken and, at that point, probably for the best

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Off Topic / Re: POLITICS & DONALD Annoying Orange MEGATHREAD

« on: May 11, 2017, 11:47:01 PM »

I don't know how much paint you ate as a child but what do you propose? Mass theft? A televised execution in Time Square?

let the workers have access to the wealth they create, rather than funnel it all into some CEO. simple as that.

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Off Topic / Re: POLITICS & DONALD Annoying Orange MEGATHREAD

« on: May 11, 2017, 11:22:14 PM »

Because the man has no idea how to pay for his social programs and just circlejerks about how he would "Tax the 1%!" but taxing the 1% isn't going to create the 18 trillion dollars that would be required to pay for Sanders' social programs for a decade, or about 1.8 trillion dollars per annum on top of the 4 trillion the United States already spends every year.

he literally has the exact specifications of how much his programs will cost and how he will pay for them righthere, but alright. where's the evidence that blows rhis out of the water, exactly?

The man literally is the antithesis of the precedent set by the architects of the constitution; the United States became prosperous on the principle of limited federal government acting mostly as a liaison between the more influential localized state governments. Increased personal freedom and responsibility mostly devoid of government interference is what drove the US economy and allowed individuals to protect the economic and social interests and inalienable rights of themselves, their families, and their neighbors.

yeah thank god our serving president doesn't hate the constitution or something, unlike that commie bernie. government control isnt necessarily a bad thing if the people themselves control the government, rather than the elites.

He's extremely inconsistent; as you saw with the firing of Comey, he had previously called for his resignation for being terrible, and then when Annoying Orange fires him for being terrible, he does a total 180 and attacks Annoying Orange for supposedly getting Comey off his case for Russia. Granted, Comey's firing has ignited a whole web of inconsistency across party platforms, which pisses me the forget off. Still, can't forget that little gem.

you're basing this assumption off a tweet that wasnt written by him, not to mention how firing someone while they are investigating you is entirely different than urging someone to step down when nothing is happening

Oh, and let's not forget, he champions the 99% and then during a debate attacks a small business owner for not being able to pay for Obamacare. Doesn't help that the guy has three mansions.

not sure what specifically you're referring to, but the only thing i could find was bernie saying that he thinks you should provide your employees with healthcare even if you are a small business, and you shouldnt avoid that just to make more money. there's nothing unreasonable about expecting employers to treat their employees well, though ideally obamacare would be reformed and not replaced with horse stuff to make the business owner have less problems in that regard.

People like Poli, however, look at the problems and assume that the problem is capitalism, so the solution is to rip the whole system apart and try something new. That's despite all the good capitalism has done, considering we rose from nothing and became one of the most developed and powerful countries in the world. That's also despite how many times socialism has been implemented in countries and has failed, ruining the economy/job market, and how it's edgier brother communism ensures that there is NO class movement at all, and basically traps everyone on the bottom rung.

if "transitioning into a social democracy controlled by the people and not the elites" is what you call "ripping up capitalism", then hell yeah.
also, "all the good capitalism has done"? really? what exactly are these good things? the way america "rose from nothing" into greatness was by profiting off of wars and conflicts like ww1, and being the only remaining country that wasn't in debt after the war purely because we sold a good amount of the equipment used in the war. and yeah, all those goods that kickstarted the american economy were produced on the backs of the workers who created them, the workers who were then given peanuts in exchange for creating an industrial and military superpower. to put it in your words, the government got all the benefits while the workers got the shaft.

oh and let me guess, you think capitalism and it's amazing competitive nature is the most efficient way to encourage innovation and change, right? despite the fact that it is this very nature that leads to companies withholding pragmatic steps forward in technology (apple in general is a great example), despite the fact that the only innovations that arise are ones that can be profitied on?
think, for a second, how much more progress would be made if society as a whole could have access to the education and means of production necessary to breed creative, new innovations, innovations created because they not only benefit the individual's life, but everybody else's as well. there exists the motivation to innovate more efficiently than capitalism would allow, and there also inherently exists the means by which these innovations could be created.

for every country socialism has failed in, there exists a country whose wealth is not insignificant compared to the US, and whose prosperity and overall quality of life definitely gives us a run for our money. at its core, allowing every individual to achieve greatness and contribute to society works better for developed countries than 1% of the population controlling the near entirety of our wealth while 50 million other citizens have to beg for scraps or starve.

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Off Topic / Re: POLITICS & DONALD Annoying Orange MEGATHREAD

« on: May 11, 2017, 03:37:50 PM »

why even respond to corderlain at this point

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Off Topic / Re: what the forget is it with these fidget spinners

« on: May 11, 2017, 02:02:41 PM »

i wamt shadman to die

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Off Topic / Re: POLITICS & DONALD Annoying Orange MEGATHREAD

« on: May 11, 2017, 12:41:49 PM »

If youve seen Venezuela and you still think socialism can work you are the one with dementia.

that's like saying capitalism doesnt work because of the great depression

actually though, saying capitalism "works" for the entire country and not just the upper middle class and above isnt necessarily true

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Off Topic / Re: POLITICS & DONALD Annoying Orange MEGATHREAD

« on: May 11, 2017, 06:59:24 AM »

He doesn't need beach's help for that

do you have any actual reason to dislike him besides "socialism is scary D:"

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Drama / Re: Insert Name Here Is Not A Disgusting Cringe Degenerate!

« on: May 10, 2017, 09:48:15 PM »

this is what you get for bad-mouthing trap link you mother forgeter

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Off Topic / Re: POLITICS & DONALD Annoying Orange MEGATHREAD

« on: May 10, 2017, 06:17:23 PM »

Theres a difference between sanders being against what Comey did and outright wanting him gone. Which is what happened now and yet these same group of handicaps who also wanted him gone are now protesting it.

bernie sanders doesnt run that twitter account lol

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Off Topic / Re: This Link Is A Trap

« on: May 10, 2017, 04:48:22 PM »

oh no

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Off Topic / Re: This Link Is A Trap

« on: May 10, 2017, 04:18:17 PM »

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Off Topic / Re: new bill wurtz: History of the entire world

« on: May 10, 2017, 03:46:13 PM »

oooooh stuff

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Off Topic / Re: Family Guy in The Future

« on: May 10, 2017, 03:43:48 PM »

Family GUy is incredibly overrated.

No different from teen titans go.