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Off Topic / Re: What is your Religeous Affiliation?

« on: October 12, 2011, 10:43:53 PM »

i'm actually quite serious about that
because I don't mind him existing. if I die and nothing happens, nothing gained nothing lost. but if something good happens, something gained nothing lost.

John 14:16

Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

You need to still ask for that salvation.

10k post.
Whee.

OH MY GOODNESS I MISSED THAT

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Off Topic / Re: What is your Religeous Affiliation?

« on: October 12, 2011, 10:41:09 PM »

do we get to choose before or after death
personally, I want to choose after death.

Personally I'd like that too, but I deal with the realities found within my faith. I can't force you to walk my way, but I can't also say the road you are taking is a good one either from my viewpoint. Do as you wish.

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Off Topic / Re: What is your Religeous Affiliation?

« on: October 12, 2011, 10:33:52 PM »

if he knows the future, then history is already set.
options may occur, but we are only going to choose one.

He still provides the options of not being tied to this broken creation (The physical universe) after we die.

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Off Topic / Re: What is your Religeous Affiliation?

« on: October 12, 2011, 10:32:21 PM »

Before we're even born he will know if we're going to hell forever.

Yeah, I like how free that will is.

If He forced us the other way, then there would even be less free will.

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Off Topic / Re: What is your Religeous Affiliation?

« on: October 12, 2011, 10:31:09 PM »

or scaring the stuff out of them with tales of a burning eternity.

That's a really bad approach, I know that. Most Christians fail to show love through that hardline approach, which is one of the most important aspects of the faith.

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Off Topic / Re: What is your Religeous Affiliation?

« on: October 12, 2011, 10:26:53 PM »

then how does God know what will happen before it happens?
or does the Bible not say that
quite frankly I don't know, Baptist "teachers" seem to teach a whole load of bullstuff to kids

I still want to read through the entire Bible once at least
it seems interesting

Building faith in God without any trials would be like schools without grades

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Off Topic / Re: What is your Religeous Affiliation?

« on: October 12, 2011, 10:23:48 PM »

If god loves everyone who follows him, then why would he allow them to shoot each other? OR get shot by some non-believer? Wouldn't it make more sense to stop something like that if he's so holy and god like? I don't mind religious people, I actually used to be religious, but I really lost my faith in god after all the stuff that happens.

Bro, what would be the point of free will then?

Jesus lived a sin free life and didn't go to hell after dying because He wasn't taken from God's creation because he is God. God does not belong to Satan. Satan pretty much broke up this world with the Fall of Man, and separated man from God. God could easily have forced them to come back to Him, but God is just and punished them for this in certain ways, one of them being mortality in this world. Despite these punishments, man became more progressively evil such as in the story of Cain and Abel. It even got to a point where He bottle-necked the human race with Noah's Flood. Man was continually straying away from God and into the ways of godlessness. However, God decided to give the future generations an actual chance to be born again with God through Jesus's sacrifice. Many know the message, yet a good amount of them love to push it away because they don't want to feel at fault, especially for something they believe they didn't do. Plus, if God wanted to make creatures with free will, why would He directly violate our will to choose to be with Him or not?

It's really tragic (assuming my faith was real) that most people actually will go to Hell, and most of the reason for not converting is because they see most Christians as hypocrites, and they would be lost to the Devil. The only real way that actually seems to get people on the fence interested is to live the abundant and refreshing life that we are promised by Jesus, praising in whether we are in tough or happy times (Somewhat hard to do on an internet forum). I can't lie, there are a good amount of Christians who do not do this, and this really hurts the people they are supposed to be displaying the message of being reborn to because those people don't see anything significant in it.

What's with people using "God lets bad things happen to good people!" as a religion testing question.

I myself haven't read the bible front to back but I'm pretty sure somewhere in there it'll say something along the lines of the devil being the one causing the bad things.

Psalm 34:19 ESV

Many are the afflictions of the righteous, but the Lord delivers him out of them all.

Plus man was created with free will, so we can do bad things even without the Devil.

from what isee the devil is already burning in hell.

The Devil manages hell.

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Off Topic / Re: What is your Religeous Affiliation?

« on: October 12, 2011, 09:58:11 PM »

the thing i loving dont understand is how god is always telling about "sin is bad" and "Sinners go to hell" and stuff. but seriously, why doesnt he just remove sin? its like he wants us to go to hell with the following:

no proof
no actual guidance by god himself
lots of cases in which god hasn't helped at all (for example slavery)
things made by sinners (hell from the old churches who scared people into paying them money and stuff)
hell
jesus was gay.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnR3WPjfLzI

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Off Topic / Re: What is your Religeous Affiliation?

« on: October 12, 2011, 09:54:54 PM »

lol at people expecting God to allow no disaster at all to afflict a broken world.

Trials and problems exist to strengthen me.

His fault for providing 0 evidence for himself

There is this thing called faith that hardcore rationalists would laugh at

But I still have

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Drama / Re: Stocking, and asking why she hasn't been banned yet.

« on: October 12, 2011, 09:47:19 PM »

I like how Stocking's white knights de-railed this thread to nonsensical gibberish after the post Amade made.

Take a breather bro

We can go without arguing for a bit.

wow im on both of your sides

Ho you work for ME

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Off Topic / Re: Post your goddamn theme song.

« on: October 12, 2011, 09:44:01 PM »

Red - Feed the Machine

Would be my second choice because I see a lot of foolish peers submitting to the hollow ideals without substance that the media forces into us.

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Drama / Re: Stocking, and asking why she hasn't been banned yet.

« on: October 12, 2011, 09:41:57 PM »

I'm doing it to reclaim my #swag

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Drama / Re: BL Whiteknights

« on: October 12, 2011, 09:31:17 PM »

I whiteknight out of boredom

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Drama / Re: Stocking, and asking why she hasn't been banned yet.

« on: October 12, 2011, 09:29:19 PM »

tony is stuped for flaming sroostering

Sroostering sucks socks!

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Drama / Re: Stocking, and asking why she hasn't been banned yet.

« on: October 12, 2011, 09:27:24 PM »

Let's make bets on who reignite the argument.

Lord Tony is my guess