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Off Topic / Re: discord sux
« on: August 21, 2022, 03:38:00 PM »
by removing discord i literally lose access to every project that i have to use discord in order to be in, and forfeit a lot of effort i've put into things. for my Own, personal projects i have to use discord in order to communicate with the vast majority of users and communicate with the vast majority of people who contribute to them, because forums are very much not preferable anymore to the average joe. i've tried.

aside from THAT, i lose access to the less connected parts of friend groups i'm in or have met on discord entirely. i use these friend groups to get feedback on things, or for general discussions on things i can't really talk about anywhere else.
aside from even THAT, i lose access to a bunch of irls i'm not friends with or don't have close contact with anymore. i lose access to everyone i don't talk to regularly through whatsapp, basically, such as random coworkers, people who attend my school, stuff like that.

your suggestion is to stop using the app entirely right now, which would be equal to erasing all of my presence, personal projects connections and contributions i've made within the past several years online. the issue isn't what the app provides, it's the things around what it provides which i explained in OP and the messages shortly after.
the only way i can really avoid this is if everyone moved to a platform like discord but without the major glaring issues, which doesn't seem to be likely to happen any time soon. if it was that easy i literally just would have deleted the app and not said anything about it. cmon man.

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Off Topic / Re: discord sux
« on: August 21, 2022, 02:41:16 PM »
i literally cannot ignore it i would need to drop literally all of my projects as of right now in order to do dat

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Off Topic / Re: discord sux
« on: August 19, 2022, 12:15:18 AM »
discord sucks but your complaint is just that you arent able to approve every conversation on a message board lol, just respect and ignore them the same way you would with friends-of-friends irl
i think you misunderstand. the issue is no matter what i do i am forced to interact things that would be highly avoidable on other forms of social media that are significantly harder to avoid on discord. i could list examples, but the crux of it is that it's significantly harder to get rid of weirdos due to how discord is formatted specifically, such as but not limited to a people who asked for feet pics/diaper roleplay/various other unsavory things from literally all of my friends and got away with it by clutching their pearls and just rejoining the friend group whenever someone they had blackmail on/they were friends with would come into power and continue being weird. this has never been an issue with my irl or other friend group for obvious reasons.

pretty much this. i will never forget that creep/dog loving situation. any friend request i get that is not someone i know is instantly ignored and being a part of any of the communities is just a no go for me.
this would be awesome if i didn't have things to maintain ig.
for both of you: yeah, discord is an awesome file hosting platform. i probably use it more for file storage than i do the actual platform. if i decided to give up all of my projects that's probably all i would use it for.

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Off Topic / Re: discord sux
« on: August 18, 2022, 02:30:50 PM »
i also don't join massive servers unless i have to but as a developer it's become harder to avoid joining public big discord servers and being forced to interact with people. as someone with interests in art, music and other random things there aren't a whole lot of smaller servers to go to for feedback, tips and general friendship with people who share my interests unless i'm already close friends with someone who shares the interest and has already established themselves ig. as an instant messaging service it's a+ but as a social media, which is the intended use since it replaced literally everything, it fails p hard

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Off Topic / Re: discord sux
« on: August 18, 2022, 01:54:07 PM »
telegram is perfect if i want to talk to furries, yeah

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Off Topic / discord sux
« on: August 18, 2022, 01:37:44 PM »
dsciord sux
i think discord sucks.
discord would be a great platform if it weren't for how it was set up. the way it's currently set up heavily encourages making your own little corner with your close friends and Maybe random people who are heavily invested in your project or doings. for many communities that used to be active and thriving previously, the advent of discord has made them obsolete in a way that makes it so that information regarding them has become almost completely private, or extremely hard to find due to how intentionally stuffty discord's search is made to be. this community, the community surrounding facepunch, an untold amount of game and server related forums and how interactions online work in general were torn down completely by discord.

the other issue, due to how discord is set up, is that it's significantly harder to stay in contact with new people and also significantly harder to get away from bad people. i've an unreasonable amount of experiences with discord friend groups which were spread over multiple places, with all of them having some absolute weirdo which would try their hardest to grip onto it and spread their bullstuff everywhere they went. eventually the friend group would come under the control of people who were friends with the weirdo in question, and nothing could be done about it but continue the cycle of new servers, information loss, meeting new people and losing them just as fast. this was literally not a problem when my primary method of communication was steam. was there a Weirdo in my friend group? literally just ignore them and they can't do harm anymore. with discord, the only thing i can do is block them, which only works for minor nuisances at best as there are loads of ways to get around it or situations in which blocking them does nothing due to the effect they have.

the moderation is very, very lax. i have met multiple child predators on discord, as well as repeat groomers and multiple people who sent me unsolicited richard pics. many of these people are still active, since discord is not a forum and therefore simply being on a new account makes you fully anonymous.
let's look at the statistics:

the vast majority of reports for child research, CSAM, are not investigated and are instead probably put through a library similar to nsfwjs and automatically banned based on report context, and at the time of this audit and now there still exists an active and open child enthusiast community on discord. all it takes to find an underage dating server is a few seconds on disboard, and even one time i saw an actual child predator who served time for it and the murder of a trans prostitute and was well known among the /lgbt/ community, whom had invited a 15 year old girl to the server and was posting risque pictures of a thirteen year old girl. i reported the server immediately and checked again a few months later, not having received an email from discord. the server was still there, the evidence was still there, and the user had been banned but came back on an alt to do the exact same thing until me and my friends pressured the owner into getting rid of them.

all in all, discord is a terrible platform. it makes it even worse that the speculated profit margin for nitro doesn't nearly cover the cost of keeping up the service and paying back their investors, so it's more than likely that the CEO, who previously created 2 different platforms which collected and sold information, including OpenFeint, a social media service for games, which was sold for $104 million and was almost immediately revealed to be data collection software, and declined a $10 billion buy offer from microsoft, is selling it to his investors. that's just schizo talk though.
da alternatives
gilted
guilded is in no way serviceable. not only does it have a lot of the same issues as discord, it has really extreme feature creep, is slow and clunky, and is owned by loving roblox corporation. even if this service was popular, i would not use it.
matrice
the api and it's clients seem serviceable, but not to be considered a complete discord alternative due to some key differences in how the api works and discord features. also pretty hard to convince your friends to use it.
rebolt
revolt is a pretty fair alternative powered by the fine, golden energy of FOSS rhetoric. it seeks to get rid of a lot of issues discord has, has developers that are Human, active and not driven by venture capital, seemingly active moderation, and a much better system to help it replace things like forums through it's discovery system and the fact that it's self-hostable. when your account is deleted on revolt, all of your messages are Gone, unlike discord which stores the information and simply changes your username.
it's still in early days, and i've made a server for it for the sake of seeing where it goes - https://app.revolt.chat/invite/g0xxwYKy

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Drama / Re: Plastiware was arrested for child research
« on: August 13, 2022, 07:27:30 AM »
Oh yeah here it is... oh wait that's not you that's the loving honor student (Seph) from here and he actually wrote something somewhat properly summarizing the forums.
here's unovas post

legit genius
sephiroth was 20 years old and a grown adult when he made that post. i was in elementary school at 11 years old when i made that post and when he was harassing me on discord with random schizophrenic messages.

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Off Topic / Re: Hiring dev(s) for a Blockland-inspired game engine
« on: August 13, 2022, 12:53:49 AM »
Phant - would you like to continue discussion in private? We're in a "closed door" phase and trying not to hand out too much.
i don't think this is information you shouldn't hand out since it would help with both recruitment and decisions to support your multiplayer online lego game, but yknow.

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Drama / Re: Plastiware was arrested for child research
« on: August 12, 2022, 05:12:09 AM »
No, he really is the owner of Kiwifarms. He goes by "Null" these days. He even got into an argument with King Tony when he made an account there which, NGL, was the one of the most funniest stuff I ever read.
just got hit by the post from 11 year old me that stuff hurted

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Off Topic / Re: What is AoT again????
« on: August 05, 2022, 10:12:43 AM »
blo

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Off Topic / Re: The Prophecy Is Completed
« on: August 01, 2022, 02:27:20 PM »
Anyway I've been putting off getting Fire Emblem for a few years now, I think I'll finally get a copy it sounds pretty fun when compared to XCOM like that.
get shadows of valentia first; the latest games aside from that are not representative of the series at all. if you like SoV, go for radiant dawn/path of radiance and then after anything that catches your eye i guess

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Creativity / Re: Drawings Megathread
« on: August 01, 2022, 01:26:57 PM »

throw it back, soldier ant!

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Creativity / Re: Drawings Megathread
« on: July 31, 2022, 07:53:54 AM »

ref thing for this dumbass ant creature idk

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Off Topic / Re: The Prophecy Is Completed
« on: July 26, 2022, 01:08:00 PM »
remember: good terrain can turn an army of 10 into 1000.
man.. this is just like fire emblem

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