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Clan Discussion / Re: [ARES]Argos Rho Expeditionary Starfleet - Bombarding Moat from orbit since 1692!
« on: March 27, 2012, 12:32:20 PM »
I don't believe that fire warriors appear on knarlocs
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Off Topic / Re: Post real life pictures of yourself.
« on: March 27, 2012, 12:28:37 PM »
you look like a hobbit
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Off Topic / Re: My Little Pony: Friendship for Blockheads: General V2
« on: March 27, 2012, 12:25:12 PM »
breaking the horn must hurt like hell since it's the same colour which leads me to think that it's almost like any part of said pony e.g. a leg
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Off Topic / Re: Religious Views?
« on: March 27, 2012, 12:21:38 PM »Nothing used to say the atoms existed, but they did. For something to exist, someone doesn't necessarily have to have said it does.This doesn't make sense. I'll continue with the rest of your post.
And God is unmeasurable... I don't get where you're going with this. If something exists outside the Universe, we can't measure it.There's still no reason for God to exist. You keep asking me if I understand. I understand perfectly well what you're saying. It's your turn to understand.
Do you understand my argument at all? Outside of the Universe ANYTHING could exist. We will never know what actually exists, because we can't measure it. There being some proof inside our Universe that such an object exists would be impossible, because we can't measure these things. This means that and infinite amount of things could exist outside of the Universe. One of such things could be God, another could be a tennis ball etc. Equally, there could be nothing. We'll never know either way, so being Atheist and saying that there definitely isn't a God is in effect saying that you believe there to be nothing outside of the Universe. Again, this is a possibility, but the probabilities are the same. Therefore, Agnosticism is the only logical option. To accept we will never know what is outside of our Universe and that it isn't worth our time considering it.
If there is something outside of our universe not bound by any sort of physical laws, how do we know of its existence? All evidence points toward it being made up. No god has had any true effect besides coincidences chosen to be taken as miracles or signs. There is no way a normal person could have learned about such an untraceable being 2000 years ago. The whole idea is a load of crap made up to control gullible people.
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Off Topic / Re: Religious Views?
« on: March 27, 2012, 11:51:43 AM »There is no reason why he should exist. There is equally no reason why he shouldn't exist.wrong. he shouldn't exist because nothing says he does.
We can't provide a reason because we can't make measurements.we can measure all measurable things and conclude that there is no reason for God to exist.
Anything could exist beyond our Universe because it would not have to be bound by our laws of science. God is just one such possibility. Each and every possibility cannot be argued for or against, include Theism and Atheism. The entire argument is purely guesswork which is why I am Agnostic. I still don't get how you can't comprehend this very basic argument.If one would think like this then nothing would get anywhere. How do you know anything could exist outside the laws of science? You don't, and you don't have any reason to think that it does. Saying "well it might" is useless and doesn't make a real argument. Guessing around about random stuff for no reason isn't valid to me.
I don't want to think that there may or may not be a god because I have no reason to. We have laws of science, and they are everywhere we can measure, meaning we have no reason to think that there might be a place outside the laws of science. why would there be such a place?
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Off Topic / Re: Religious Views?
« on: March 27, 2012, 11:36:58 AM »I'm not saying that there is or isn't a God. What I'm saying is that for God to exist, he'd have to exist outside of our Universe so as not to be bound by the constraints of our physical laws. Because of this, he becomes unmeasurable and therefore he can't be proven. Equivalently, you can't prove that God doesn't exist. It's metaphysics and therefore not a logical argument at all.thing is why would he exist?
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Off Topic / Re: Religious Views?
« on: March 27, 2012, 11:32:39 AM »Just on a side note, there is energy in empty space.thank you we know
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Off Topic / Re: Religious Views?
« on: March 27, 2012, 11:29:39 AM »We can't prove the laws of science apply outside of the Universe though, because we can't make measurements outside of the Universe. Science relies on a hypothesis, carrying out measurements and then putting forward an improved hypothesis. This breaks down when we can't measure something. Regardless of this, wherever God is, the laws of science must be different to accommodate his many omni-powers.why are you talking about God as if we have established why he would exist?
FYI: I am Agnostic.
and again why wouldn't the laws of science apply everywhere?
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Off Topic / Re: Furling/Cubelands has return here!
« on: March 27, 2012, 11:28:57 AM »I know her snice. her first join server was my place and I teach her build and event, I never forget.her what? I don't know her that well but uh
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Off Topic / Re: Religious Views?
« on: March 27, 2012, 11:25:33 AM »
I think the laws of science are always everywhere cause why wouldn't they.
Intangible,I can't see hear touch smell or taste energy in empty space either
can you see, hear, touch, smell, or taste God?
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Off Topic / Re: Furling/Cubelands has return here!
« on: March 27, 2012, 11:21:16 AM »
I know Amaya from my friends list on Steam 
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Off Topic / Re: Religious Views?
« on: March 27, 2012, 11:20:23 AM »Because we can't measure something which is not physically present.what do you mean and what do you mean with "physically present"
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Off Topic / Re: Religious Views?
« on: March 27, 2012, 11:17:35 AM »The example has obviously confused you, sorry.Hold on with your therefores. How do you know these things?
God can't be measured. God exists outside of the laws of science. Therefore
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Off Topic / Re: My Little Pony: Friendship for Blockheads: General V2
« on: March 27, 2012, 11:15:03 AM »A condom for ponies or a pony themed condom?all of those things