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It does answer his question, and the answer is "Don't kill innocent people"
I saw no such statement or implication, just two questions and a prompt, but whatever

And what you're pointing out is completely different from what I pointed out. What I pointed out was that he was using the same logic as terrorists. What you're pointing out is not similarities in logic. What you're trying to point out is actual consequences of actions, consequences which you have not proven will actually happen in any of the things you pointed out.
My point was that he doesn't have to admit to agreeing with what you assume the terrorists are thinking, when you don't have to admit that you agree with some of the things I knew you wouldn't. You gave him an unfair ultimatum - "If you think this, then you literally have to admit to being no better than these evil people" - so I gave you unfair ultimatums.

Raising the minimum wage has not in the past raised inflation, in fact the minimum wage has been lagging behind inflation.

How would Wal-Mart pay for this? Fire less qualified workers to make room for fewer more qualified ones, sure, but that's not enough. Prices would have to go up. Even if for some reason that doesn't raise the prices, supply/demand would. Implying the employment rate stays the same, there are now a lot more people out there with a lot more cash in their pockets willing to buy higher quality or a higher quantity of products. Either price or production rises, but one is far more convenient than the other-- especially under a Sanders presidency. Rinse & repeat for other large companies, and next thing you know the overall cost of living has risen.

Making education free does not lower the quality of education.
Hypothetical situation:

A college has 1000 students, each class has 40 students. Now, let's subsidize this college with tax dollars and make it free to attend. You now have 2000 students with even more trying to get in, but that is all they will accept. 80 students per class. The workload on the professors is doubled and the amount of time they could spend helping an individual student is replaced with time spent grading papers and such. Answering every student's questions is no longer a wise decision as it would take up time to the point where professor may not finish the lesson, so they either don't answer or give a quick half-assed answer, leaving the students still confused. Now, to deal with all the students trying to get in, they college can allocate funds towards expanding. If they do, that's less money for supplies, labs, etc, and they end up needing to hire more faculty. To save money(remember they're running off of the government, have to save money wherever possible), they hire less experienced staff. Less experienced educators = lower quality education.

I could keep going but by now you should have a good grasp of cause-and-effect. I experienced such a scenario firsthand with my public(runs off of tax dollars) high school. People hear how great our school and community is, attendance rises drastically and abnormally in a short amount of time, we build a huge new building to handle the freshman and sophomores, hire a bunch of cheap young staff who the students all complain about, "unnecessary" expenditures are cut(supplies for labs, art classes, band/orchestra, etc), more ridiculous rules are set in place to more easily deal with the wider gap in the student:staff ratio and the overall high school experience is less enjoyable. The quality of education for me my senior year was lower when compared to the quality I had experienced my freshman year.

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something I've noticed across the internet:

"Look at me I'm edgy and clever for using Donald's last name before they legally changed it" - perfectly fine
"Look at me I'm edgy and clever for using Jenner's first name before they legally changed it" - transphobe >:\

probably has something to do with varying levels of respect, where as you would use "Drumpf" like an insult to show you don't respect him.

You do realize that what Drumpf said was the exact logic that terrorists use in the first place, right?
What do you think terrorists were thinking when they wanted to bring down the twin towers?
"Don't kid yourself. These americans, they have hearts. They care about their family. We need to take out their families." is exactly what they were thinking. If you seriously want to defend what Drumpf said you literally need to admit that terrorist logic is A-OK.
this doesn't answer his question. regardless, if you support $12+ minimum wage you literally have to admit that inflation and a higher unemployment rate is A-OK

if you support free college you literally have to admit that increased taxes and lowered quality of education is A-OK

if you support the "fairness paycheck law" you literally have to admit that providing compensation for women instead of actually working towards ending any real discrimination is A-OK (effectively making you loveist against men)

I'm not sure which of Bernie's policies you support, so I picked a few. I'd elaborate on these, but I'm trying to make a point, not focus on the policies

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Off Topic / Re: Car thread
« on: March 19, 2016, 10:23:43 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI_ZTLFA4BI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcL1H8t6qTo
nfs irl

So uh.....good and bad things happened with my car today. In good news, I changed out the two burned out taillights that I've been putting off for months, so now the car looks a little less ghetto. In bad news, it was raining today, so I was driving less intelligently, and I managed to do something, and to put things short, I did something to my steering. I can't tell if the issue is related to the suspension, the alignment, or the steering assembly, but driving in circles for a few minutes seemed to make it stop.

I also discovered on accident how to start the car a little smoother. It still won't hold the idle, but I found a way to cure the hard starts by pushing fuel into the engine with the fuel pump a couple extra times. Now instead of screaming to a start in the split second that I start the key, it actually cranks over like it's supposed to do.

what was the noticeable issue with the steering?

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that is actually not half bad of a point

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Games / Re: [MEGATHREAD] Fallout 4 || DLC Announced
« on: March 18, 2016, 09:46:28 PM »
that particular mod page isn't loading for me rn even when navigating to it from the nexus homepage, idk what went wrong ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

in fact the whole website is loading super slow for me now

anyways it's a set of enclave armor

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a better part of my current country

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B-but, it took place before America even existed as a seperate nation...
what kind of sick freedom-hater revised history books have you been reading?

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Off Topic / Re: How crazy am I for wanting to travel the world?
« on: March 18, 2016, 10:09:52 AM »
I don't think it's necessarily "crazy", but it's definitely an idea loads of people dream and talk about but then never actually make a goal out of it - for whatever reason - especially when you're talking about living in the places you travel as opposed to visiting.

Personally, I have had such a goal for around two years now; I've got a couple thousand saved so far for travelling, and have also done lots of research. I know I'd be good off in many cases, because as an IT nerd/designer I can pretty much find good-paying work wherever there are computers(not that I'd want this type of work, but it's an option), and my real-world mma/pk training could help me stay out of trouble.

I don't plan to go on a journey until I'm more around your age, but the thing I fear is that by the time I'm that old I'll have many factors working against me: a wife, high-paying promotion/job, debilitating injury, financial crCIA-- basically it comes down to either I get too comfortable or get put in a situation where I wouldn't be able to experience it the way I want to. Can't reccommend the "never returning" idea and/or selling everything you've got here in the states, though. My own plan has me returning permanently at some point - maybe taking breaks from travelling to return home for a while every now and then, too - I could never leave all of my friends, and I want to start a family eventually. My opinion is: you want to enhance your life, not ruin it, so don't do anything you're not totally dedicated to and prepared for

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blah blah blah 3rd parties effectively impossible to manage under electoral college and winner-take-all elections for an extended period of time poo poo pbbtttbtbb
great, then let's abolish the electoral college already. there are mannnyy who are loyal to exclusively either party and i'm sure everyone has been noticing that the hostility between these supporters is splitting the country in half

Elections are so over rated. Lets just get a dictator already. #DonaldTheDictator2016
all 3 of the top candidates are authoritarians so we're getting a richardtator regardless

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Off Topic / Re: Best Pokemon game to start with?
« on: March 18, 2016, 08:27:51 AM »
My first was heartgold in 2012
my first was yellow in 2000 smh im old

i still have a functioning "atomic purple" gb color from back then

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Off Topic / Re: Which forumers would you fight IRL?
« on: March 17, 2016, 08:29:59 PM »
more like snap his elbow backwards trying to pierce the skin

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[NEWS] Fallout 4 Megathread dead for two days; Lord Tony finds alternative trolling grounds

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