I was on Big Brother's ONE MAN ARMY / BOSS server earlier today, and BB was afk off in a corner. I was still loading datablocks, so I did not witness the first few times players were being spawnkilled by the Spy class and their butterfly knives.
TwenteFreak was trying to explain why the boss needs random spawns.
[11:04:03][TwenteFreak]: giro u suk
[11:04:22][Vampil]: I hit him at the start with a butterfly knife
[11:04:26][Vampil]: ;:D
[11:04:37][TwenteFreak]: That's why the boss needs random spawns
[11:04:46][TwenteFreak]: So cigarettes like you can't spawnkill him
[11:04:52][Vampil]: Lol
[11:04:56][Vampil]: Says the freak
[11:05:03][Vampil]: who doesn't scope
[11:05:07][Hoogle]: i wanna be spawnekilled
IkeTheGeneric, the resident admin, makes a new temporary rule.
[11:05:09][IkeTheGeneric]: Temporary server rule: Complaining gets you a kick
I then play troll for a second and state the following
[11:05:21][Lugnut1206]: Ike
[...]
[11:05:37][Lugnut1206]: Vampil and Hoogle and Twente are complaining
[11:05:39][Lugnut1206]: kick them please
Vampil and Hoogle then start acting totally confused, as they well should be as I was attempting to lighten the atmosphere
I was then kicked for complaining by Ike
No big deal, I had complained, rule was, no complaining.
[11:05:56][IkeTheGeneric]: He was complaining about you complaining
[11:05:58][Hoogle]: I was complimenting Ike's new rules which I like.
[11:05:59][TwenteFreak]: Oh and vampil is just being a dumbass
[11:06:02][Hoogle]: lol
[11:06:02][Lugnut1206]: thats what I figured
[11:06:06][Lugnut1206]: lol
>>>Vampil starts a votekick against TwenteFreak.
[11:06:13][Vampil]: Reason you think I am a dumbass, twente?
[11:06:13][IkeTheGeneric]: You complained about them complaining
I mention
Hoogles drama about him exploiting votekick, as TwenteFreak explains why he hates Vampil.
[11:06:22][Lugnut1206]: hoogle, did you just have a drama about you exploiting votekick?
[11:06:27][TwenteFreak]: Because I think you're a dumbass
[11:06:28][TwenteFreak]: There
[11:06:29][Lugnut1206]: didn't you just*
[11:06:31][TwenteFreak]: Deal with it
Ike states the obvious,
[11:06:40][IkeTheGeneric]: There is a votekick enabled
and hoogle doesn't answer my question.
Meanwhile, Vampil and Twente are still arguing over Vampil spawnkilling Twente.
[11:06:45][Vampil]: That's not a reason, that just proves you don't know what you are talking about.
The votekick against Twente fails, and Twente starts a votekick against Vampil.
[11:07:05][Lugnut1206]: I'm wondering if Hoogle is the guy that had the drama about it
[11:07:14][Lugnut1206]: yes he is
[11:07:17][Vampil]: Twente doesn't have a reason to call me a dumbass so for no reason he just votekicks me.
[11:07:25][TwenteFreak]: Yeah
The votekick, for reasons I am unsure of, succeeds.
[11:07:25][Lugnut1206]: we'll wait untill he does something stupid
[11:07:28][TwenteFreak]: Deal with it
[11:07:33][Lugnut1206]: /no
>>>Vampil kicked for 5 minutes.
[11:07:37][TwenteFreak]: :)
[11:07:39][Lugnut1206]: That was gay.
[11:07:44][IkeTheGeneric]: CONSOLE?!?!/1?1?!?!
As expected, someone, in this case, Twente, jumps on me.
[11:07:46][TwenteFreak]: Are you complaining?
[11:07:54][IkeTheGeneric]: wat
[11:07:58][Lugnut1206]: I suppose not
I didn't feel like getting kicked again, less than three minutes from the last time, so I said no.
Nothing happens for nearly a minute and a half, an Vampil comes back (without dealing with the full ban time???).
[11:08:41][Hoogle]: wb vamp
[11:08:43][Lugnut1206]: WB Vampil
[11:08:48][Vampil]: Hm?
[11:08:49][TwenteFreak]: lol
[11:08:51][Hoogle]: welcome back
[11:08:54][Lugnut1206]: Welcome back
Vampil attempts revenge on Twente.
[11:09:11][TwenteFreak]: Hmm
[11:09:27][TwenteFreak]: This is just sad
[11:09:27][Hoogle]: /no, I'm against votekick abuse.
[11:09:27][Pecon7]: I have to see how much me server did and did not get ripped off =P
[11:09:28][::SpaceMan::]: Nooeh
[11:09:28][Vampil]: Not rage, just a payback from how you votekicked for no reason.
>>> Ike cancels the votekick.
[11:09:32][TwenteFreak]: It's rage
[11:09:35][IkeTheGeneric]: I unbanned you
[11:09:35][TwenteFreak]: You're mad
[11:09:45][Vampil]: mad?
[11:09:48][Vampil]: How?
I start piecing things together.
[11:10:10][Lugnut1206]: Let me get this straight
[11:10:20][Lugnut1206]: You just canceled a votekick...
>>>Ike creates a votekick against Twente.
[11:10:25][Lugnut1206]: now you;re making a new one
>>>Then cancels it.
[11:10:27][Vampil]: That's what you get.
[11:10:31][Lugnut1206]: Seriously?
[11:10:37][TwenteFreak]: heh
[11:10:38][IkeTheGeneric]: I canceled it
Vampil trys to argue his point.
[11:10:44][Vampil]: Saying I'm raging doesn't make up for your retartedness.
[11:10:55][Magibowser]: ^ lololo
[11:10:59][TwenteFreak]: I'm pretty sure you're mad
I try to back Vampil.
[11:11:13][Lugnut1206]: And I'm pretty sure you kicked him for little reason
[11 minutes during which nothing of interest happened, Twente seems to have left]
Arkal (The current boss) starts acting like a handicap.
[11:21:41][Arkal]: Wow, these guns are the same weapon damage as yours
[11:21:42][Arkal]: they suck
[11:21:51][Vampil]: Arkal
[11:21:53][Hoogle]: we don't have your health.
[11:21:58][Vampil]: To you, everything sucks.
[11:21:59][Paradon]: I WILL BE POPULAR HUEHUE
[11:22:03][Vampil]: Stop complaining.
[11:22:05][Arkal]: no it does not
[11:22:08][Paradon]: I'm diffrent ;-;
[11:22:10][Vampil]: Well, stop.
[11:22:10][Arkal]: You loving perv
[11:22:12][IkeTheGeneric]: NO COMPLAINING
[11:22:12][Arkal]: I do
[11:22:12][Paolo]: :OOO
[11:22:18][IkeTheGeneric]: WHATSOEVER
[11:22:20][Klarck]: wooo
Now the fun begins.[11:23:04][Lugnut1206]: Is the boss afk?
[11:23:08][mouse droid21 (pepsi n)]: no
[11:23:10][Paolo]: :O
[11:23:11][Vampil]: WOW
[11:23:11][Hoogle]: woah sorry
[11:23:14][Hoogle]: sorry
[11:23:16][Lugnut1206]: Oh no, we just spawnkilled them.
[11:23:19][Lugnut1206]: Lovely.
[11:23:21][Hoogle]: I was putting the knife down to say
[11:23:37][Lugnut1206]: Wtf ike
[11:23:44][Hoogle]: I was putting the kife down to say there is a afk prevention in both places
[11:23:47][IkeTheGeneric]: Tell me why you kicked him
[11:23:49][Hoogle]: as soon as i did
[11:23:50][Hoogle]: he spawned.
[11:23:54][Lugnut1206]: Because he spawnkilled
[11:23:54][Vampil]: no rule against spawnkill
[11:23:56][Hoogle]: Ike they will say I spawnkilled them
[11:24:00][Hoogle]: (not technically spawnkill)
[11:24:00][Lugnut1206]: There should be.
[11:24:01][IkeTheGeneric]: No rule against it
[11:24:14][Lugnut1206]: then what is 'technically spawnkill'?
[11:24:15][Vampil]: LAG
[11:24:26][Ryo55]: An indirect spawnkill?
[11:24:26][IkeTheGeneric]: There is none, shut up
[11:24:26][Paolo]: OOOO
[11:24:27][Hoogle]: When you kill someone when they spawn
[11:24:31][Hoogle]: Not when they teleport lol
[11:24:46][Hoogle]: you should say
[11:24:49][Lugnut1206]: Thats a bullstuff technicality.
[11:24:52][Hoogle]: Hoogle SetPlayerTransformKilled!
[11:24:59][Bull Dog]: wat?
[11:25:00][Bull Dog]: lol
[11:25:00][Lugnut1206]: Good enough for me
[11:25:04][Lugnut1206]: Thats why we kicked him ike.
[11:25:09][Hoogle]: :)
[11:25:12][Bull Dog]: kicked who?
[11:25:16][Lugnut1206]: Because he killed the guy once he got into the kitchen.
TL;DR (I am not responsible for lack of clarity) - I attempt to votekick Hoogle for spawnkilling, Ike cancels vote and asks why I started it, I state I did because he spawnkilled, Hoogle argues that my kick is wrong because he didn't technically
spawnkill him, he killed him
after he chose his class and teleported in.
Arkal remains a handicap. Ike kicks.
[11:26:09][Arkal]: he just spades you hoogle
[11:26:10][Arkal]: See
[11:26:16][Arkal]: loving wimp/[ussy
[11:26:20][Arkal]: pusillanimous individual*
[11:26:32][Paolo]: DwdaEfijijgi;aowgjpoehjf;oijewofjw
[11:26:33][Magibowser]: Thanks
[11:26:39][Arkal]: O_O
[11:26:44][IkeTheGeneric]: I'm not sure you got my loving gist
[11:26:46][IkeTheGeneric]: NO COMPLAINING
[11:26:53][Hoogle]: Look I am sorry to everyone for not breaking a rule
[11:26:54][Arkal]: Im not complaining.
[11:26:56][Hoogle]: It won't happen again
[11:27:02][IkeTheGeneric]: hmm looks like you were
Arkal goes gone.
6 minutes later, Vampil spawnkills the boss... again.
[11:33:53][Vampil]: ganeral
[11:33:54][Magibowser]: If Bull Dog goes out, he's certainly killed
[11:34:01][Lugnut1206]: Spawn - in - kitchen killing <<< I state why I want him kicked, as per 'protocol'
[11:34:05][Vampil]: there's no rule against it
[11:34:08][Lugnut1206]: whatevber the forget you wanna [call it]
[11:34:12][Hoogle]: If your the boss get ready to run
>>>IkeTheGeneric cancels vote.
[11:34:13][Klarck]: but we want to kick you
[11:34:22][Hoogle]: 'we'
[11:34:32][Klarck]: well... i want to kick you
[11:34:33][Lugnut1206]: Implying eeveryone who voted yes.
[11:34:38][Lugnut1206]: and me.
Klarck appears on my side, Hoogle trolls, and Ike's blood pressure rises.
[11:34:38][Klarck]: you did the same for me
[11:34:41][Vampil]: I hit him 5 times
[11:34:49][Magibowser]: Burn bitch, BURN
[11:34:49][Vampil]: and klarck
[11:34:49][IkeTheGeneric]: Guys shut the forget up
[11:34:50][Hoogle]: If Im the boss I want you guys to try spawn kill me
[11:34:50][Lugnut1206]: Hit who five times?
[11:34:51][Klarck]: and its super handicapped and not cool
[11:34:51][Hoogle]: I like challenge
[11:34:54][IkeTheGeneric]: There's no rule against it
I attempt to argue why we should be able to votekick people we want gone.
[11:34:54][Lugnut1206]: Ike
[11:34:55][Vampil]: you spawnkilled too
[11:34:56][IkeTheGeneric]: THATS IT
[11:35:01][Lugnut1206]: We want to votekick them
[11:35:03][Klarck]: so what?
[11:35:06][Lugnut1206]: it doesn't matter if theres a rule
[11:35:07][IkeTheGeneric]: Good for you
[11:35:11][Klarck]: you did the same for me
[11:35:13][mouse droid21 (pepsi n)]: ms sam: hogole should i stfu?
[11:35:14][Magibowser]: IkeTheGeneric, plase finish anyone who is being a handicap or this will turn out like Pecon's server
[11:35:15][Klarck]: i want to do that too
[11:35:16][Vampil]: and?
I am then kicked by Ike, probably for complaining.
I return.
[11:37:31][Vampil]: Hello.
[11:37:36][Lugnut1206]: Hi.
[11:37:36][Vampil]: Having fun?
[11:37:40][Lugnut1206]: Not really.
[11:37:40][IkeTheGeneric]: Now quit it with your stuff
What stuff? Wanting to votekick people because I don't like the way they spawnkill people? Isn't that the purpose of the votekick mod?
[11:37:44][Lugnut1206]: But I'm not complaining.
[11:37:49][Vampil]: You were.
[11:37:55][Lugnut1206]: I suppose.
[11:37:59][Vampil]: You might aswell do it now too.
[11:38:03][Lugnut1206]: We'll let BB be the final deciding factor on that.
[11:38:12][Vampil]: big brother?
[11:38:15][Lugnut1206]: Yes.
[11:38:16][IkeTheGeneric]: For what?
[11:38:25][Vampil]: I'm sure he will understand you're just being an idiot.
[11:38:31][Lugnut1206]: Pretty much everything that just happened in the last half an hour.
[11:38:44][Vampil]: It will be your own ban
[11:38:47][Vampil]: Don't isk it
[11:38:53][Lugnut1206]: If he feels that way, fine. <As in, if he wants to ban me
[11:38:55][IkeTheGeneric]: Lugnut
[11:38:55][Vampil]: I might feel bad
Interestingly Ike, I'm not banned (last I checked).
Magibowser pulls out the simple phrases.
[11:39:02][IkeTheGeneric]: You have nothing going for you if you continue down this road
[11:39:14][Lugnut1206]: I will have stood up for what I felt was right, and if he disagrees, then this isn't the server for me.
[11:39:17][Magibowser]: Shut up, you
[11:39:23][Magibowser]: you're just digging yourself a deeper hole
[11:39:23][Vampil]: lol
[11:39:25][Lugnut1206]: Thats all there is too it.
[11:39:28][IkeTheGeneric]: You aren't right
I feel right, even if I'm not.
I have messaged BB over RTB, and I am now awaiting his responce, so I say, forget it, lets play.
[11:39:34][Lugnut1206]: Now, can we drop it temporarily?
[11:39:38][Lugnut1206]: and
[11:39:39][Lugnut1206]: I dunno
[11:39:40][IkeTheGeneric]: Just drop it completely
[11:39:40][Lugnut1206]: play?
[11:39:49][IkeTheGeneric]: Don'
[11:39:51][Vampil]: lugnut is suddenly scared
[11:39:53][Magibowser]: Why is everyone a magician?
[11:39:54][IkeTheGeneric]: Don't do that stuff at me
[11:40:04][IkeTheGeneric]: It's your own loving fault you got kicked <<< I'm missing the point here, I know it is my own fault. Can anyone clear this up?
[11:40:11][Vampil]: agreed
[11:40:16][Klarck]: look at me
[11:40:19][Lugnut1206]: What stuff at you?
Magibowser attempts to calm me down forcefully, when I'm not even angry.
[11:40:30][Magibowser]: Lugnut, calm your tits
[11:40:34][Hoogle]: ^
[11:40:37][Lugnut1206]: You do that
[11:40:43][Lugnut1206]: I'm done with it for now
[11:40:48][Klarck]: gtfo
[11:40:51][Vampil]: Lugnut
[11:40:57][Vampil]: Magi doesn't have to calm
[11:41:07][Vampil]: He isn't raging and trolling in the first place.
[11:42:01][Hoogle]: so laggeh :(
[11:42:10][Vampil]: Ike
[11:42:10][IkeTheGeneric]: A calm shades over the server. All is peaceful.
And indeed there was, for a good, what, three minutes? Then, out of the blue, as Ike is leaving, he bans me for forty minutes.
[11:44:50][Vampil]: Ike
[11:44:53][IkeTheGeneric]: Yes?
[11:44:57][Vampil]: Accept my friend request?
[11:45:05][IkeTheGeneric]: Didn't recieve one
[11:45:09][Vampil]: Oh
[11:45:14][Vampil]: Maybe it was the wrong guy
[11:45:16][Vampil]: lol
[11:45:28][IkeTheGeneric]: Sent one to you
[11:45:30][Vampil]: k
[11:45:37][Magibowser]: IMHO, bosses need more agility
>>>NOTE THIS LINE BY MAGIBOWSER
[11:45:40][Vampil]: Didn't recieve any
[11:45:48][IkeTheGeneric]: Then RTB must be having issues
[11:45:50][Vampil]: Weird.
[11:46:02][Magibowser]: FFFUUU
[11:46:09][IkeTheGeneric]: i need to go
[11:46:25][Lugnut1206]: Are you sure thats not your unhonest opinion?
>>>I reference said line in the sense of a lighthearted joke.
[11:46:36][Vampil]: What is
>>>Banned for 40 minutes. Reason: "yes i am"
My question to you, blockland forums, is not "omg ike is badass shud he be bnaned"
but instead are the following.
Q:Should votekick be used
only for enforcing the rules, or should it also be used for keeping the server free of people who ruin the game for other people?
Q:Was Ikes final 40 minute ban just?\
Q:Should spawnkilling be allowed in this kind of gamemode, or even in any kind of game?
My responces, for whatever they're worth, for said questions are as follows.
A:It should be used for keeping the server fun and enjoyable for all players.
A:... I obviously feel it wasn't, as I had done nothing to provoke him or break the rules after the final bout.
A:Why should it?
FINALLY: Full unedited chatlogs are
here.
Discuss, please.