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Off Topic / Re: Mic left on after NJ senate meeting reveals they actually DO want your guns.

« on: May 13, 2013, 09:18:30 PM »

Yes. As I said before, an armed populace accepting the government is much better than a disarmed one accepting it.

But an armed populace is already implying they don't trust the government, it shows. And when the government sees this, they lose trust in the people, and then there's tension and conflict. It's a prisoner's dilemma, both sides are better off blindly trusting, but because they don't think the others will they end up fighting instead.

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Off Topic / Re: Mic left on after NJ senate meeting reveals they actually DO want your guns.

« on: May 13, 2013, 09:14:06 PM »

That's the direction the country is going in.

And when we have a conservative president, that will change. The cycle continues.

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Off Topic / Re: Mic left on after NJ senate meeting reveals they actually DO want your guns.

« on: May 13, 2013, 09:13:08 PM »

No it doesn't. If you allow the government to dictate WHY you should have a right taken away as well as define the circumstances, you are asking for trouble.

And letting the people run around with guns and make there own laws is a better option? I'm all for individual rights, but not when it endangers the people around them and the system they live in.

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Off Topic / Re: Mic left on after NJ senate meeting reveals they actually DO want your guns.

« on: May 13, 2013, 09:08:41 PM »

In a perfect world, background checks are perfectly reasonable and I would accept them. However, that would also include checking for mental illness, and who decides what the definition of "mentally ill"? In the Soviet Union it was considered a mental illness to disagree with the government, therefore allowing them to take your guns and arrest you when you say "you can't do that!"

But this isn't the Soviet Union is it? Quit citing fallen foreign regimes as arguments.

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Off Topic / Re: Mic left on after NJ senate meeting reveals they actually DO want your guns.

« on: May 13, 2013, 09:05:49 PM »

>what is a joke

Come on now, for someone who acts like he's so smart and knows everything, you're pretty dull.

That was a pretty stuffty, offensive joke to be fair. Besides, what was that you said about name calling?

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Off Topic / Re: Mic left on after NJ senate meeting reveals they actually DO want your guns.

« on: May 13, 2013, 09:04:38 PM »

Why's that?

Because it's grossly inaccurate, Obama doesn't plan on kill all those who oppose him.

Also I see those crazy militias as the last line of defense. The first responders should always be peaceful assemblers and voters.

Ok, that's reasonable. I'm just so tired of this "It's America, we shoot first, then ask questions!" mentality that folks have.

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Off Topic / Re: Mic left on after NJ senate meeting reveals they actually DO want your guns.

« on: May 13, 2013, 09:00:26 PM »

The Maverick missile is expensive and their are simply not enough to wipe out the entire population. They could go after the leaders of militias, but it is simply ineffective. Also tanks and armored vehicles are ineffective in urban warfare. It's a large elephant in a small maze, they are super vunerable to mines, rockets, and recoilless rifles. Besides the civilian AR15 is pretty underpowered compared to the M4 and m16.

Second people like Riddler rose to power because they convinced people to vote them in power. From there he was able to use the younger generation and radicals to create a more obedient force such as the Gestapo and the Waffen SS to carry out his tasks unopposed. The regular German army wasn't as radical, but if they were to go against the national socialist's there officers would have been killed off by Gestapo agents or SS troops. Riddler took the right to bear arms away from the Jews and look what happened. The Polish resistance and Army remnants, Norwegians, and Dane's put up a fight to the end of the war because they wouldn't let the German's push them around. Homoloveuals, Jews, Gypsies, handicapped people, and deformed people were all killed in concentration camps. Since the national socialist thing is thrown around a lot, lets look homeward  like those 112.5 million Native Americans were killed by white settlers and us troops? All they had were arrows and tomahawks, some tribes were able to get guns from white traders and use them against the us army like at the Battle of BigHorn. A lot of actions against the Natives were carried out by the Democrat party such as the Trail of Tears and the exterminations in California. Which backs up my statement earlier about how it's all about getting the most votes and appealing to a certain audience. Yesterday the Democrats were tribal Strawmen who were proslavery, today they are intellectuals who want racial equality and gay rights.

You lost all credibility when you started to compare the Obama administration to national socialist Germany.

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Off Topic / Re: Mic left on after NJ senate meeting reveals they actually DO want your guns.

« on: May 13, 2013, 08:55:36 PM »

The internet and other forms of communication have removed the need for representatives to make decisions on our behalf. We need a direct democracy in place of the Legislature, with the president still obtaining his role of vetoing laws he believes are unjust.

I think this a perfect solution, then it's true majority, and no going around it with money.

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Off Topic / Re: Mic left on after NJ senate meeting reveals they actually DO want your guns.

« on: May 13, 2013, 08:54:13 PM »

The American dream was success regardless of birth place and wealth. The system needs to encourage progress and working, without forcing you to backstab people to get ahead.

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Off Topic / Re: Mic left on after NJ senate meeting reveals they actually DO want your guns.

« on: May 13, 2013, 08:48:50 PM »

But that's the thing. 300 million Americans could vote to do something that would fix the economy but if it made the rich lose too much money, they would stop it in some way. It has happened, can happen, and likely will happen before everything is said and done.

So it's simple, we kill the rich man.

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Off Topic / Re: Mic left on after NJ senate meeting reveals they actually DO want your guns.

« on: May 13, 2013, 08:45:35 PM »

You don't aim to destroy the government, you aim to replace it with representatives that you feel would govern better, or you just break off and form your own nation. American rebels didn't sail to England and occupy the capital and destroy the monarchy.

Fine, go ahead, kill off Obama and his administration and replace them. Or better yet, just form your own nation. Then you Conservatives could jerk off to your guns, money, and slaves somewhere else.

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Off Topic / Re: Mic left on after NJ senate meeting reveals they actually DO want your guns.

« on: May 13, 2013, 08:41:59 PM »

Our government isn't loving crappy. Anyone who says so is ignorant as forget.

Bureaucracy in any form is slower moving than society is, and it will always be. Things are being done, things have been done, and things will continue to be done.

I was speaking from his perspective, I think the government is fine.

We were the British.

But we didn't want to be, he makes it sound like he doesn't want to be an American, and we should rebel and make a new nation.

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Off Topic / Re: Mic left on after NJ senate meeting reveals they actually DO want your guns.

« on: May 13, 2013, 08:38:38 PM »

What took away our political freedom? No guns. Catering to wealth.

This all the way. Greed and corruption, not gun rights, should be the issue of our time.

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Off Topic / Re: Mic left on after NJ senate meeting reveals they actually DO want your guns.

« on: May 13, 2013, 08:37:42 PM »

Do you even know how the USA was formed? By fighting the government. You think the king would have just let us break off if we sent him an angry letter? No, we had to fight the government.

That was the British, not our own nation. Besides, times change. Violence was the only option then, but just because it was doesn't mean it has to be now. Destroying the government would lead to anarchy, and a crappy government is better than none at all.

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Off Topic / Re: Mic left on after NJ senate meeting reveals they actually DO want your guns.

« on: May 13, 2013, 08:33:08 PM »

You make it sound like the government isn't doing anything wrong.

They are, they are. But my point is that the people shouldn't fight them, they should embrace the system and work to improve it. Making the government your enemy only leads to anarchy.