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Off Topic / Re: refugees in sweden are magically """"comatose"""" when informed of deportation

« on: June 16, 2017, 11:21:46 PM »

When did this turn into a conversation about Haiti and when can I mention Clinton

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Off Topic / Re: refugees in sweden are magically """"comatose"""" when informed of deportation

« on: June 16, 2017, 09:18:28 PM »

-snip-

I've seen enough "homeless" people with fresh, clean clothes outside my local McDonalds to know better. Hell, I saw this one guy with his god damn collar pressed and ironed better than mine. The forget dude

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Off Topic / Re: refugees in sweden are magically """"comatose"""" when informed of deportation

« on: June 16, 2017, 07:40:17 PM »

Yeah but you also don't go on the forums and make fun of the homeless man either. Nobody's asking you to uproot yourself and become a humanitarian worker, just don't split on people with stufftier lives than you.

How am I spitting on people with stufftier lives than me

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Off Topic / Re: refugees in sweden are magically """"comatose"""" when informed of deportation

« on: June 16, 2017, 06:58:01 PM »

The best thing to do is to come to a good understanding of the phenomenon and then act on it. I don't know what Sweden's policy is on deporting migrants with sick or comatose children is but I'd imagine it makes the whole process a hell of a lot more difficult.

I guess.

I don't think I've been exposed to these things any less than you have, but I don't have the same kind of callous attitude towards it. This sounds like a you problem.
We have some differing definitions of the word 'sympathy'.

I sympathize with the homeless man on the street, doesn't mean I'm going to give him money. I don't feel the need to act on my sympathetic feelings. Doesn't make me any less sympathetic, just means I have different priorities than what you feel I should.
And it's not a me "problem".

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Off Topic / Re: refugees in sweden are magically """"comatose"""" when informed of deportation

« on: June 16, 2017, 05:39:29 PM »

Why do you gotta be such an starfish? The suffering of children is an issue completely independent from partisan politics and immigration debate. What would your minister/priest/grandma say if she saw you going boo-hoo to kids with mental trauma?

Because the whole "suffering of muh children" thing kind of gets old? It's hard to continue to care about the plight of children halfway across the word when it's being constantly thrown in your face. I mean, I still sympathize, but at this point it's like "eh whatever".
I don't care what my grandmother thinks of my morals. That's... a weird thing to even bring up.

Did you read what i posted or..? They didn't conveniently act comatose, they're legitimately comatose.

I read through enough of what you linked to understand it's a legitimate condition. What I don't understand now is why it seems to be localized in Sweden, and why it's

happening mainly to former-Soviet immigrants, not refugees.

but being passed off as happening to refugees and such and so. More information I'd like to know is why these people are being deported? Because if it's a legitimate reason, then I hardly think Sweden is responsible for their mental well-being, to be entirely honest.

syria? they're from around romania and the balkans. also noticed how i said "that would probably be accepting refugees" it's not like every country in the world allows refugees in, sweden germany austria and france are probably the closest countries that accept refugees, and even then that's seriously far. Sweden probably takes the least amount of time to process immigration, which is why it's a big choice of refugees

It never made sense to me that refugees from halfway across the world are willing to risk life and limb to get to Europe, and Europe opens their star fish for them. Obviously, not every country, but because of the EU, it can't really be helped. There should be some kind of UN policy to have refugees relocated to the nearest stable country instead of having to risk their lives to get to a place tens of thousands of miles away. Obviously that country would be compensated via UN funds, and of course I'm just making conjecture, but yeah. You'd think the real humanitarian crCIA would be enabling all these human traffickers and migrant boats that seem to capsize every over month.

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Off Topic / Re: refugees in sweden are magically """"comatose"""" when informed of deportation

« on: June 16, 2017, 11:10:18 AM »

probably cause you haven't lived in a warzone, traveled in a stuffty rubber dinghy across the Mediterranean, only to have some dude tell you that you're going back to the jihadis

And the world's smallest violin plays

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Games / Re: Take-Two Hates Mods: OpenIV Recieves C&D, Cancels Distribution

« on: June 16, 2017, 09:08:27 AM »

Why cant we have nice things

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Off Topic / Re: refugees in sweden are magically """"comatose"""" when informed of deportation

« on: June 16, 2017, 08:42:38 AM »

But acting like a richard just because someone doesn't agree with you is immature and as far as anyone is concerned, leaves you with no credibility. Compared to what I said, your regular posting habits make you seem like a toddler with anger issues, so of course it's ironic if you accuse me of blowing off an emotional load
Comas are comas, regardless of how they are caused. If you read the article, it already says that they refuse to respond through involuntary stimuli, something that is biologically impossible unless you're either comatose or dead. This includes things like pupil dilation to light, muscle spasms to hitting the kneecap, etc. Comas don't adhere towards political bias.

The second article says that the 'magic cure' takes 3-5 months to take effect, and the people who are in the coma don't start recovering for about 2 months. That's very typical. If they were to instantly leave the coma and make a full recovery in like a week, i'd be very skeptical too

It's been well documented that people who are traumatized will sometimes enter coma-like depressive states, lose hair or suffer from other PTSD related issues. That's infinitely more probable than being able to control involuntary reactions. If you're honestly going to doubt that the coma is serious on the grounds that it's caused by deportation, an extremely traumatic and life changing experience, then it's no longer skepticism. In fact, it's just denying proven medical facts

I don't act like a richard because people disagree with me, I act like a richard because people loving attack me for disagreeing with them? When people respond to me in a hostile manner, I do the same. Basic stuff. And notice how you just called me a toddler with anger issues. How am I not justified in calling you a piss stained rooster wallet or something of the like for that? forget off.

Deportation is an extremely traumatic experience? What, are they being shipped back to a Warsaw ghetto? Unless they're Syrian refugees I doubt their home country is that bad. And if it is? Tough stuff, honestly. I sympathize with their plight, but that's life. Go home and do what you can there if you get deported. I'm honestly surprised people even get deported from Swedistan in the first place. Seems like it's open season over there when it comes to immigration. Oddly enough, it seems to be only place this happens in? Why have I not heard of deportation sickness in America? We probably deport more people than every country in the EU combined, but this is the first I'm hearing of this? Is deportation from Europe especially traumatic? This is either bullstuff, or it's real and I can't take it seriously anyway, because deportation comas sound, look, and are ridiculous.

Attempting to defend this garbage is hilarious. Just ship them off.

And if anything, they should see this as a blessing. People in comas are easier to transport.

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Off Topic / Re: refugees in sweden are magically """"comatose"""" when informed of deportation

« on: June 16, 2017, 08:03:26 AM »

All of those are justified in context and hardly flaming? I can understand if I came out of left field and called someone a dipstuff, but..?

So comas are only serious when they don't happen in response to something you disagree with? That's some great reasoning

if you honestly think being in a state where you can't react to stimuli or feed yourself isn't serious, you're irredeemably stupid

What? Comas are serious business. Supposed comas induced by being informed of deportation? Nah. Especially when the magic cure is being allowed to stay. That's just ridiculous. It has nothing to do with what I disagree with. Maybe if I ever see this in person I'll believe it, but uh, excuse me for having some skepticism.

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Off Topic / Re: refugees in sweden are magically """"comatose"""" when informed of deportation

« on: June 16, 2017, 07:29:15 AM »

"emotional load" lmao

normally i'd just interpret this as 'i'm going to ignore it instead of admitting i'm wrong' but coming from someone who flames every two responses, this post seems extra special

If you think me calling someone an idiot is flaming you're pretty soft
Then again considering you're taking people going into medical comas over deportation seriously that's no surprise

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Off Topic / Re: refugees in sweden are magically """"comatose"""" when informed of deportation

« on: June 16, 2017, 07:18:39 AM »

You find it hard to believe that having your whole way of life threatened and forced to relocate causes some sort of traumatic response? I find it hard to believe that you even think this type of stuff. Moving like 20 city blocks to a new house causes temporary depression in most people, imagine what taking a car or bus or some sort of boat for 1 and a half months to an entirely new country does to you, especially when after all that you're told to go back
Well it says in the article that they are in a coma like state. They don't respond to stimuli the way someone who is awake does. If you were to fake a coma, i'm sure they would be able to tell you're faking, simply by testing reflexes or shining a light in their eye, which it says in the article they didn't respond to.

Whether you refuse to believe it or not, they're actually going comatose. If you were told you have to go all the way back after a loving long journey like that, your body would probably unconsciously try to stop it from happening. Either way, they aren't doing it on purpose and it already says in the articles that they aren't
"Reasoning" would be to look at the fact that they are medically ill and probably focus on treating them. Saying "lol i call bullstuff" isn't reason. And, as usual with anyone, "Reasoning over sympathy" is a stuffty excuse to have to not care about other people who are in danger

Do I need to type a full response to this or should I just let you blow off your emotional load and come back when you're done

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Off Topic / Re: refugees in sweden are magically """"comatose"""" when informed of deportation

« on: June 16, 2017, 06:37:46 AM »

I wouldn't be surprised if the comas were bullstuff - but it doesn't make me sympathize with these people any less. If I had escaped Syria and was given asylum in Sweeden, I would do whatever I loving could to avoid being deported back to an active warzone.

I mean of course, but I'm not gonna let that sympathy get in the way of my reasoning, you know?

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Off Topic / Re: refugees in sweden are magically """"comatose"""" when informed of deportation

« on: June 16, 2017, 06:25:20 AM »

how though? it'd be the equivalent of taking someone who survived the ariana grande concert and saying we're now going to force you to go back in there and we're going to seat you next to a box of nails.

I'm so sorry I find it hard to believe people are literally dropping into comas when informed of deportation
Maybe they're just trying to make it easier to transport them out the country? Who knows!

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Off Topic / Re: The "The Last Night" stuffshow

« on: June 16, 2017, 06:20:29 AM »

games media is still trying to tear Tim Soret a new one

https://mic.com/articles/179636/the-last-night-creator-tim-soret-apologizes-for-gamergate-tweets-but-uncertainty-lingers#.lVbokUHR1

https://www.polygon.com/e3/2017/6/12/15780174/the-last-night-twitter-history-gamergate

http://kotaku.com/e3-show-stealer-s-old-political-tweets-spark-internet-f-1796025311

What's annoying is literally no one but these loving starfishs gives a stuff about what Tim Soret does outside of game development. forget, he could be the gaming world's Steve Shives and I'd still buy his game as long as it's good. I'm sick of these richardwallets trying to control the market based on ideology. loving ridiculous.

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Off Topic / Re: refugees in sweden are magically """"comatose"""" when informed of deportation

« on: June 16, 2017, 06:17:59 AM »

Lol this is such bs