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Off Topic / Re: Car thread

« on: March 27, 2014, 08:57:26 PM »

how much was it?

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Off Topic / Re: Tennessee passes bill allowing bullying to other LGBT students

« on: March 27, 2014, 08:55:31 PM »

That's a scientific theory. That's what I've been saying this whole time. You and I are on the same page.

the only reason I'm even in this argument is because I disagreed with someone saying creationism is false
if you don't think it's true, whatever, that's your belief, but you shouldn't try to tell other people what to believe

sharing knowledge and talking about it is one thing. but saying your belief is a fact is ridiculous

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Off Topic / Re: Tennessee passes bill allowing bullying to other LGBT students

« on: March 27, 2014, 08:50:52 PM »

Have you been paying attention to any of what Sandwich and I have been posting for the past seven pages?

unless you quoted me, no

Of course an explosion isn't the only thing that could cause the universe to expand. But when you couple Hubble's law with all of our cosmological knowledge, the big bang is the best explanation for the source of expansion.
"an explosions isn't the only thing that can cause that"
No loving stuff. But it's the best explanation based on what we know about the universe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_energy

The Big Bang Theory is essentially a model that predicts the history of how the Universe formed, and it doesn't necessarily say that an /explosion/ caused an expansion, since that means a very specific thing in terms of gas pressure and chemical reaction. All the Big Bang Theory suggests is that the Universe has been expanding. Hubble's Law is a testament to the predictive qualities of the model.

thank you for not being a jerk about it
and I understand, so thank you for that too
like I said earlier, I don't actually believe in anything, but I do think the whole big bang theory is the most plausible explanation. it's just that I also think that nothing is (currently) provable to the point where it could actually be said to be fact. you can believe whatever you want, as far as I'm concerned
within reason, of course. I don't think it's reasonable to believe in something like voodoo or actual magic

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Off Topic / Re: Tennessee passes bill allowing bullying to other LGBT students

« on: March 27, 2014, 08:38:23 PM »

The concept is more of "could this potentially one day be disproven/tested" more than "can it currently be disproven/tested."

yeah, I don't see how you could possibly prove, ever, that an explosion didn't happen billions of years ago that filled the universe with matter and whatever

Yeah, but you also come from a background of having zero cosmological experience.

what are you talking about?

1. Provide a contradiction of Hubble's law. This would support the idea of a steady-state universe.
2. Provide a contradiction of Olbers's Paradox. A dark night sky supports the idea of an expanding universe.

all hubble's law says is that everything is moving away from us. an explosions isn't the only thing that can cause that
and that paradox is the same thing, except I'm not sure how it makes a lot of sense in the first place, because it seems to imply that we can see every star in the universe in our line of sight when we look a the sky, already
the hubble deep field looks like empty black space from our point of view from the earth, but in the image taken by the satellite, we can clearly see that there are actually things there, that we can't see with the naked eye
so unless I'm missing something...

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Off Topic / Re: Tennessee passes bill allowing bullying to other LGBT students

« on: March 27, 2014, 08:22:05 PM »

You're right, it is biased. Towards science.

it's not science if it's biased ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Off Topic / Re: Furry Megathread - Furry Things Here

« on: March 27, 2014, 08:18:11 PM »

I'm pretty sure that's by the same guy who made the rockoons
he has a really unique style

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Off Topic / Re: Tennessee passes bill allowing bullying to other LGBT students

« on: March 27, 2014, 08:17:12 PM »

And that's why it can't be passed off as truth. It is unfalsifiable. Science only accepts ideas that can be proven wrong in some way. If it can't be proven wrong, it's a supernatural explanation and isn't real science.

I don't see any way to prove the big bang wrong?

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Evolution
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Common_descent
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Scientific_theory

somehow I doubt that website is unbiased. wikipedia is certainly better
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_descent
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory

and their creationism article is a joke
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creationism
just compare the lists of references, lol

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Off Topic / Re: Furry Megathread - Furry Things Here

« on: March 27, 2014, 07:59:16 PM »

I didn't search hard enough. I was busy with something else.

no I mean that none of that is CPR
CPR is in none of those drawings
CPR is the bomb

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Off Topic / Re: Furry Megathread - Furry Things Here

« on: March 27, 2014, 07:56:32 PM »

that's not CPR at all

also in that one image, that's pizza, not chicken

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Off Topic / Re: Tennessee passes bill allowing bullying to other LGBT students

« on: March 27, 2014, 07:55:51 PM »

I don't 'beleive'[sic] in evolution.

wow, okay, that's what we're doing now? whining about typos? you do believe in it though. statistics are enough of a reason to believe that something made it the way it was

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Off Topic / Re: How do you pronounce the above user's name?

« on: March 27, 2014, 07:53:20 PM »

non-uhl

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Off Topic / Re: Tennessee passes bill allowing bullying to other LGBT students

« on: March 27, 2014, 07:52:42 PM »

That's not creationism, that's deism.

okay, I see. but I'm almost entirely sure that he meant such a thing, too. and besides, I could also say that however many thousands of years ago, some being created everything, and then gave the celestial bodies all that movement and stuff that we use as evidence for the big bang. can't prove that wrong either

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Off Topic / Re: Tennessee passes bill allowing bullying to other LGBT students

« on: March 27, 2014, 07:49:51 PM »

Multiple extremely outdated ideas?

before the big bang, an all-powerful being created that... thing, whatever it was, that would become the big bang
I can say that
that would be a creationist belief
and you can't prove it wrong

(I don't actually believe that, but that's not the point. I don't really believe in anything)

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Creativity / Re: The new and improved 3D model topic!

« on: March 27, 2014, 07:45:22 PM »

I like it, but the mirrors are way too big, and shaped weird
other than that it looks fine to me. maybe it's a little too short vertically?

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Off Topic / Re: Tennessee passes bill allowing bullying to other LGBT students

« on: March 27, 2014, 07:43:25 PM »

Sorry, *one of them is backed by knowledge, the other is backed by a two-thousand year old book

TIL christianity = all creationism