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Extraordinary Claims require Extraordinary Evidence,
And these videos, These Damning Videos, are very extraordinary evidence.
and like i said, i'm willing to believe that, on some scale, maybe a hundred or so fraudulent votes per swing state happened at best, which is a hundred or so too many, but it's frankly insignificant, and if this has been happening for over 30 years, then i'd also wonder why it hasn't come up sooner since over 8 elections that wouldn't be an insignificant number of random people involved in passing.

regardless, the best bet is to see if a formal investigation happens and what they find out. this wouldn't be the first time o'keefe was a bit deceptive in his journalism.

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Creativity / Re: Game Design Megathread
« on: October 18, 2016, 07:55:37 PM »
dam this engine is looking pretty sweet

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im glad the friendly joke police are here to keep us safe from unfunny japes and memes

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voting is a bottom-up process; it happens in precincts in cities in counties in states, there are too many local levels for high-up party leaders to easily orchestrate a nationwide rigging operation and too many people to corrupt. it's not impossible that foul play could happen, but the amount of resources required to make any reasonable dent in electoral numbers is very slim

the electoral process for the president is also not direct. the majority of states are strongly affiliated with one party and all of their electoral votes will go to the party which wins a plurality in that state. in order to maliciously push the outcome of a red state in favor of the democrats, you would need to rig enough votes to win over the plurality in that state. which is to say, in a heavily red or blue state, that isn't happening.

in a swing state, however, maybe you have a chance. so let's take florida. in 2012, florida had a voter turnout of around 57% of the voting-age population (15,839,713). rounding that up to 60%, we can say that around 9,503,827 florida citizens voted in the 2012 presidential election. obama won florida by 74,309 popular votes. that means to shift the plurality in romney's favor, the republican party would have had to rig 74,310 votes, and if we're saying this was done by physically bussing people around to different counties, then it'd be pretty insane to think that nobody would notice seventy five thousand people committing en-masse voter fraud. in other swing states, this number grows, in iowa it'd be 91,927, in colorado it'd be 137,858.

it's definitely not impossible that this happens, but it's so highly improbable that i'm unconvinced anyone has the power to really make that much a difference. we're assuming massive rigging movements across the nation orchestrated by party authority, and the only power higher up party leaders really have over local leaders is money, and this is money that i don't think exists. i'd be willing to believe that fraud is happening and that some people are trying to play the system, but it's highly unlikely that anyone is able to inconspicuously pull off any conspiracy of significant scale. and as with all conspiracy theories like this, we're supposed to believe that the hundreds of thousands of people that would be involved in this process over apparently many decades have all just stayed quiet; that nobody would have ever come out about this corruption after all this time. i'm not sure i buy it.

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Games / Re: who's gettin civ 6??
« on: October 18, 2016, 10:10:24 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-lTq9LJCHpT-5WKxaMZQ9vDRdDfwpf60

they've made a "how to play" playlist which is pretty neat

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Games / Re: who's gettin civ 6??
« on: October 17, 2016, 11:41:29 PM »
ah yes i should be able to read this and get the game working

off to a good start, already found where the code for germany is stored

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Games / Re: who's gettin civ 6??
« on: October 17, 2016, 11:30:54 PM »
where does the civ 6 preload download to?
steam library of your choice, pretty sure it stores whatever it downloads somewhere safe and encrypted (depotcache) so you can't cheat the system

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Off Topic / Re: my sister thinks its okay to wake me up when i sleep
« on: October 17, 2016, 10:08:36 PM »
thats so forgeted up...why would you ask someone to sleep...smh af fam

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Off Topic / Re: name my alien frend
« on: October 17, 2016, 10:05:46 PM »
spindle speeplebottoms

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General Discussion / Re: Bet you didn't know!
« on: October 17, 2016, 09:12:49 PM »
a lot of people seem to not know that you can press tab to autocomplete function names in console, multiple tab presses will cycle through all available completions. p useful trick

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Games / Re: who's gettin civ 6??
« on: October 17, 2016, 04:05:14 PM »
civ 6 is now available for preload if you've preordered the game

and additionally, a launch trailer has been released
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KdE0p2joJw

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Off Topic / Re: What's your ideology?
« on: October 17, 2016, 02:28:11 PM »
That only refers to how they've split "left" and "right" from "Authoritarian" and "Libertarian" lol

so she should still be on the left of the chart
yeah and the context it provides describes the fact that american politics uses slightly different understandings of left and right

late edit:
also note that donald Annoying Orange actually shares some views with sanders on economic policy, e.g. they both lean more toward more isolationist trade policy, whereas clinton's perspective is much more globalist

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Off Topic / Re: What's your ideology?
« on: October 17, 2016, 09:31:31 AM »
Really? Hillary is far less authoritarian than Annoying Orange? And she's more right wing?

What the forget is this chart?
Annoying Orange's definitely more authoritarian, dunno about their economic policies
wtf Hillary is way more left-leaning on economics

if they're off on something as basic as that the rest are probably fallacious too
https://www.politicalcompass.org/faq#faq21

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