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Clan Discussion / Re: GARFELD - A PURRfect clan™© (a cool internet lego thug cat clan)
« on: January 29, 2012, 09:02:52 PM »
Nasoa, wanna hang out on the blacklist?
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Off Topic / Re: Why Nerds are Unpopular.
« on: January 29, 2012, 08:58:19 PM »Bill Gates dropped out.Dayum.
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Off Topic / Re: Ohgod no please NO!!! (the death of a hard drive)
« on: January 29, 2012, 08:55:42 PM »IUV is far from perfectSorry if I wasn't clear.
in fact, i'd say he's the polar opposite of perfect.
I would never defend him unless his character completely reversed.
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Off Topic / Re: Dan makes drinks! Strawberry Lemon!
« on: January 29, 2012, 08:22:42 PM »
This sounds good.
Send me some via biplane whale plz.
Send me some via biplane whale plz.
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Off Topic / Re: Ohgod no please NO!!! (the death of a hard drive)
« on: January 29, 2012, 08:22:01 PM »
IUV is IUV
Nobody's perfect, there's no point trolling them for it.
Nobody's perfect, there's no point trolling them for it.
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Off Topic / Re: Why Nerds are Unpopular.
« on: January 29, 2012, 08:14:27 PM »
Dammit, this thread doesn't deserve to be on the second page.
First page.
Showing to people.
First page.
Showing to people.
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Off Topic / Re: Planning a governmental system that would work... ever tried it?
« on: January 29, 2012, 08:12:41 PM »
A couple of responses for Thorax
I did make a couple of errors.
I know that neutral deciders are extremely difficult to come by, if not impossible. However, it might be possible for a group of people, who have been extensively tested to have a complete balance of political views, or however much that is possible, to hold power.
Also, for religion, it isn't necessarily too difficult to convince people to be one religion, but still, it's not okay to shove opinions down people's throats. Christianity is still, as far as I know, the largest religion by far in this country. Science, I don't consider a religion; it isn't really even a belief system on its own, as it can coexist easily with religions. However, if anything, I consider it a distinct lack of religion. That can be atheism, agnosticism, or simply being areligious, like me. People have beliefs, and many are idiots for that, but it's okay to respect that most of the time. Also, radicals do attack their own, only slightly removed. Many religions will split into different sects, and violence will break out often.
Using fear as a motivator is not good. You're making people's lives worth with little reason. I strongly dislike Machiavelli's ideas. Though he was smart, his practicality did somewhat blind him to generosity, kindness, that kind of thing. A person who is constantly fearing is constantly stressed. Constantly stressed people, as I know from the experiences of my sister, do not fare well. Their lives become complicated, they become less willing to help others, and they are more easily frustrated. I cannot deny the effectiveness of a dictatorship, but we can all agree, as far as I am concerned, that dictatorships are not the way to go.
I was not basing this system off of the US' current system. It could not be properly implemented with the state we are in. This is merely theoretical. However, even if it breaks that one act, everyone who is sane, mature, and not overly mentally handicapped can still vote, albeit after some formalities. The formalities are in place to make sure that the person knows about what they are doing. If people don't know what they're doing when they vote, it can seldom lead to a good place.
Also, about the council of morality, I know that morality can be considered in a number of ways, but it is still arguable in a certain direction. They would only be a safeguard, just in case anyone's actions were too much. They wouldn't all need to agree, but they would debate and eventually come up with a majority.
So yeah, you make strong points, but I still don't accept your views.
I did make a couple of errors.
I know that neutral deciders are extremely difficult to come by, if not impossible. However, it might be possible for a group of people, who have been extensively tested to have a complete balance of political views, or however much that is possible, to hold power.
Also, for religion, it isn't necessarily too difficult to convince people to be one religion, but still, it's not okay to shove opinions down people's throats. Christianity is still, as far as I know, the largest religion by far in this country. Science, I don't consider a religion; it isn't really even a belief system on its own, as it can coexist easily with religions. However, if anything, I consider it a distinct lack of religion. That can be atheism, agnosticism, or simply being areligious, like me. People have beliefs, and many are idiots for that, but it's okay to respect that most of the time. Also, radicals do attack their own, only slightly removed. Many religions will split into different sects, and violence will break out often.
Using fear as a motivator is not good. You're making people's lives worth with little reason. I strongly dislike Machiavelli's ideas. Though he was smart, his practicality did somewhat blind him to generosity, kindness, that kind of thing. A person who is constantly fearing is constantly stressed. Constantly stressed people, as I know from the experiences of my sister, do not fare well. Their lives become complicated, they become less willing to help others, and they are more easily frustrated. I cannot deny the effectiveness of a dictatorship, but we can all agree, as far as I am concerned, that dictatorships are not the way to go.
I was not basing this system off of the US' current system. It could not be properly implemented with the state we are in. This is merely theoretical. However, even if it breaks that one act, everyone who is sane, mature, and not overly mentally handicapped can still vote, albeit after some formalities. The formalities are in place to make sure that the person knows about what they are doing. If people don't know what they're doing when they vote, it can seldom lead to a good place.
Also, about the council of morality, I know that morality can be considered in a number of ways, but it is still arguable in a certain direction. They would only be a safeguard, just in case anyone's actions were too much. They wouldn't all need to agree, but they would debate and eventually come up with a majority.
So yeah, you make strong points, but I still don't accept your views.
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Off Topic / Re: Planning a governmental system that would work... ever tried it?
« on: January 29, 2012, 01:08:50 PM »
You bring up good points.
However, that isn't very definite, and the problem with the religious part is that it's extremely hard to convince an entire country to be one religion, not to mention pretty damn cruel. Also, remember that there are radicals for every religion, no matter how peaceful.
I personally shouldn't have to much of a say in this kind of matter, as I am not religious at all. I don't believe in anything, I just go on the assumption that everything proven by science is true, though sometimes I let go of that for a while as well.
Fear isn't a good motivator, really. It is for nimrods, but they're them. The thing about using fear is that it isn't saying that things that you do are morally wrong, it's saying that it's fine if you get away with it, just that if you get caught, you get punished.
Also, normal people often have completely separate views, even in the same country. The US Civil War is a prime example; the South thought that slavery was completely fine, and the North didn't. There were also other points of contention, but that was the highlight. Even today, there is resentment and distrust.
Idiocy is passed down and often magnified. Things that were once valid are no longer.
However, still, good points, good argument.
However, that isn't very definite, and the problem with the religious part is that it's extremely hard to convince an entire country to be one religion, not to mention pretty damn cruel. Also, remember that there are radicals for every religion, no matter how peaceful.
I personally shouldn't have to much of a say in this kind of matter, as I am not religious at all. I don't believe in anything, I just go on the assumption that everything proven by science is true, though sometimes I let go of that for a while as well.
Fear isn't a good motivator, really. It is for nimrods, but they're them. The thing about using fear is that it isn't saying that things that you do are morally wrong, it's saying that it's fine if you get away with it, just that if you get caught, you get punished.
Also, normal people often have completely separate views, even in the same country. The US Civil War is a prime example; the South thought that slavery was completely fine, and the North didn't. There were also other points of contention, but that was the highlight. Even today, there is resentment and distrust.
Idiocy is passed down and often magnified. Things that were once valid are no longer.
However, still, good points, good argument.
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Off Topic / Re: Jetlok has to write a poem
« on: January 29, 2012, 12:53:46 PM »
Lovely.
My gratitude.
My gratitude.
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Off Topic / Re: Jetlok has to write a poem
« on: January 29, 2012, 12:19:24 PM »
I dream to be an idiot
Who really doesn't care
What anybody thinks or does
Or even what to wear
I'm not inclined to wistfulness
But I have come to see
That many people, many things
Are wearing down on me
And since this is a problem, this
Hematophagy
I wish I was an idiot
Insane, inane, and free
Hematophagy means bloodsucking. Just so you know.
Who really doesn't care
What anybody thinks or does
Or even what to wear
I'm not inclined to wistfulness
But I have come to see
That many people, many things
Are wearing down on me
And since this is a problem, this
Hematophagy
I wish I was an idiot
Insane, inane, and free
Hematophagy means bloodsucking. Just so you know.
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Off Topic / Re: Gat List Megathread
« on: January 29, 2012, 12:14:34 PM »
Gat, an honorary title from the Philippines usually accorded to great men or leaders[citation needed]
From Wikipedia.
Thanks, Wikipedia.
From Wikipedia.
Thanks, Wikipedia.
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Off Topic / Re: Jetlok has to write a poem
« on: January 29, 2012, 11:54:38 AM »
What's your grade average in this class?
If we're gonna fake it, we should know what kind of effort you're putting into this stuff at the moment.
Oh, and mebbe a sample of your writing?
If we're gonna fake it, we should know what kind of effort you're putting into this stuff at the moment.
Oh, and mebbe a sample of your writing?
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Off Topic / Re: Jetlok has to write a poem
« on: January 29, 2012, 11:31:53 AM »
I’d throw myself to dark abyss
And in that moment know the bliss
Of seeing new with opened eyes
And falling down from brilliant skies
And feeling chilled by rushing wind
And knowing not that I have sinned
I cannot throw myself away
I have to face each coming day
Because of others I now know
I cannot leave, I cannot go
I need to help whoever needs
If you or any other reads
This poem then I hope that you
Will just remember what I’d do
And why I wrote this poem then
When I knew all of mice and men
And how in truth the chance this has
Of being read is tiny as
The sliver of a shivering moon
Or the casket’s thread of a cocoon
Excerpt from stupid poem, this is the part I like the best. I was going overboard with drama and imagery, but that's poetry for you.
And in that moment know the bliss
Of seeing new with opened eyes
And falling down from brilliant skies
And feeling chilled by rushing wind
And knowing not that I have sinned
I cannot throw myself away
I have to face each coming day
Because of others I now know
I cannot leave, I cannot go
I need to help whoever needs
If you or any other reads
This poem then I hope that you
Will just remember what I’d do
And why I wrote this poem then
When I knew all of mice and men
And how in truth the chance this has
Of being read is tiny as
The sliver of a shivering moon
Or the casket’s thread of a cocoon
Excerpt from stupid poem, this is the part I like the best. I was going overboard with drama and imagery, but that's poetry for you.
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Off Topic / Re: Planning a governmental system that would work... ever tried it?
« on: January 29, 2012, 11:09:34 AM »I love your idea, I really do.Your input is great, thanks!
It would be cool to have the media involved in finding deciders.
You're right about the amount being defined in the constitution, but the only problem is with inflation and stuff like that. The amount would have to change depending on the state of the economy. However, it could probably be done with a percentage of the GDP or something.
To get this whole thing started you'd have to have a group of deciders already. The deciders would decide on deciders who would decide on deciders, etc.
The idea of the military stuff was to make sure that the people who ended up on top knew exactly what their forces were going through, just as a moral reminder that armies aren't numbers. However, the schooling stuff is also a good idea.
Again, thanks.
I kinda want a government simulation program now, just to see how it would work out :P