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Off Topic / Re: TomSka owes me (and ~100,000 people) new sides.
« on: September 30, 2012, 08:29:47 PM »
It's even worse on reddit where I first saw this. The average IQ in /r/videos is 90 and their sense of humor, well, makes them think this dry crap is funny.
Just by your comment I don't think I'll ever wonder into /r/videos.  Then again I don't even go on reddit to begin with.

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Off Topic / Re: Alcohol Thread
« on: September 30, 2012, 08:21:48 PM »
Oh wow, I was dead wrong.  I misread it, I apologise.  However, this doesn't dismiss the irrelevance of mentioning a statistic which in no way relates to the overall statistic of alcoholic-induced injury.  Driving is a huge risk, yes, but you keep comparing a completely unnecessary luxury to a form of transport.  There is absolutely no need to become drunk.  There is a need for transport.
And I've said before, there isn't a need to drink to the point of being drunk.  See this post (that you seemed to have NOT READ you blind hypocrite) I made much earlier about being tipsy:
There is such thing as only drinking a little and enjoying being tipsy (the common term used for being only slightly drunk to the point where you are only relaxed in mood but not at all completely unable to make proper judgement).

Mentioning that, in relation to driving, texting while driving is worse than drinking while driving.  It only relates to driving.  My argument was based around the effects of drinking as a whole, not only while driving.

Oh, and on that note, if you text while you drive, you're a joke.
It doesn't have to be worse or better than drinking while driving.  It's still an irresponsible act done while driving.  They are both impairments to actively focusing on the road that make it more likely to be a part of accidents.  You're ignoring the fact that they're similar problems.



Jesus loving christ it's like trying to argue with a child.  If you've wanted me to forfeit this argument just by being so absolutely stubborn in your "holier-than-thou" "alcohol = alcoholics" defense, congratulations you win by being ignorant.  Enjoy your prize of being a lonely ignorant fool.

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Off Topic / Re: Alcohol Thread
« on: September 30, 2012, 08:12:26 PM »
However, this doesn't dismiss the irrelevance of mentioning a statistic which in no way relates to the overall statistic of alcoholic-induced injury.
Explain what you mean specifically by pointing out the statistic that you're talking about.

EDIT:  Ok I see your edit.  Give me a minute.

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Off Topic / Re: TomSka owes me (and ~100,000 people) new sides.
« on: September 30, 2012, 08:09:36 PM »
This is weird, people are saying it's funny and it isn't funny...

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Off Topic / Re: Alcohol Thread
« on: September 30, 2012, 08:03:52 PM »
Exactly, and because of that anything that says "X beers = X" is automatically invaled unless you have a chart like
X pounds = X beers until drunk
There is a chart for that and I think it's adopted as a standard too.  My brother has one since he is a bartender.

No, but statistically speaking, it does cause harm.  It's a fact that it's the.. oh, what is it?  4th most life threatening action promoting by human beings?
I'm going to go ahead and dig into your article for the "statistics".

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In the United States, injuries are the fourth-leading cause of death, exceeded only by heart disease, stroke, and cancer.
Ah you're right!  stuff I can't rea-  hey wait, it says just injuries.  Congrats, you're a loving moron.  Lets keep on moving though.
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Of all deaths from injury in the United States, about 65 percent are classified as unintentional or accidental. The other 35 percent are intentional injuries, occurring as a result of fights, assaults, Self Delete, homicide, and other crimes.
Okay, so 65% are accidental and 35% are intentional.  Sounds good.
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Alcohol-related fatalities have been estimated to be about 43 percent of all unintentional injuries.
So... 43% of 65% of all unintentional injuries.  43% of 65 is 27.95%.  This means that all the alcohol fatalities/injuries you keep citing are actually only 27.95% of all injuries/fatalities.  This puts alcohol related injuries significantly farther below as opposed to "all injuries as a whole" as 4th major cause of death in the US.  Congrats, you're a loving moron who can't read + do math.

For further (up to date and non-simplified public high school textbook) reading, see here.  Hint:  Alcohol is listed at 3.5% for causes of death in the United States.  Second hint:  This is just "alcohol" as listed cause, not "drunk driving", meaning all deaths that were caused by alcohol or alcohol related injuries/fatalities.



Only I just did, I displayed an argument that counteracted yours entirely.  You informed me of a similarly harmful action, which didn't, in any way, benefit your argument.  Stating that texting while driving is worse than drinking while driving doesn't mean that drinking alone is more harmful.  Did I ever say I was arguing the effects of drinking while driving exclusively?  No.  I don't know why you're playing under that assumption, though.
This entire snippet is just bullstuff.

For instance:
You informed me of a similarly harmful action, which didn't, in any way, benefit your argument.
What does this even mean?  I stated something that was completely useless and irrelevant?  This doesn't even make sense.  It's like you're intentionally trying to say that I'm just posting bullstuff.  And:

Did I ever say I was arguing the effects of drinking while driving exclusively?
You don't exclusively state this but you act like it does.  You keep clinging for dear e-life onto your statistics as if there is nothing but death caused by alcohol-related fatalities/incidents.

Vincent, does it hurt to be stupid enough to try and create a simile out of a completely irrelevant activity?  I mean, being that stupid can't be painless.
Quit acting like there is no other risk in driving.  Driving sober carries the same risk for crashing.  This is the loving brown townogy everyone keeps making because it's actually pretty relevant.  We're all not repeating the same "driving has risks too" statement just for fun.

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Off Topic / Re: The Computer Megathread
« on: September 30, 2012, 07:50:31 PM »
Hey can someone look at this APU and tell me if it could run BL and by extension, the S&S?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819106001
Should be able to run it.  Not on high settings I don't think but it should be able to do the job for minimum for sure.

Not too keen on the HD 6550D or shaders/shadows' specific requirements.

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Off Topic / Re: Alcohol Thread
« on: September 30, 2012, 07:48:54 PM »
That is true.
If you're a bigger person you can have a case and still be sober (my uncle)
Or if your a small person than half a can will make you drunk (my sister)
Yeah, exactly.  I think that phrase isn't really accurate to say due this, as varying weight will allow for greater or lesser alcoholic ability.

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Off Topic / Re: TomSka owes me (and ~100,000 people) new sides.
« on: September 30, 2012, 07:48:00 PM »
This had me laughing a lot

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Off Topic / Re: Alcohol Thread
« on: September 30, 2012, 07:46:12 PM »
I was agreeing with you :/
I know.  I was just pointing out that I also posted a similar message and that I've heard "4 beers = texting while driving".  At least that's what Drake Bell said on a "don't drive intexticated" advertisement on Channel One so I can't be sure if that's true, and four beers isn't the same for all persons due to weight and etc. factors.

Texting and driving is absolutely terrible, and, in turn, while it is worse for a driver, texting ALONE is not as bad as drinking ALONE.

The effects of alcohol don't only relate to driving.  Do more research.
http://www.bookrags.com/research/accidents-and-injuries-from-alcohol-dat-01/

4th leading cause in death, not behind texting while driving.

Instead of presenting an entire argument based on nitpicked truth, you should do a bit more reading next time.
Okay, so you're never going to text in your life right?  You're not going to drink in your whole life because you want to avoid driving.

There's no arguing that drinking while driving is bad because it is, but again, you keep putting off a message that drinking will 100% absolutely lead to drinking and driving or anything that will cause harm to the user when it won't.

You aren't reading.  You're so stuck up with your traumatic past that you absolutely refuse to open and look at anyone else's perspective other than your own.  I've seen my mother and father drunk multiple times and it was rather scary, granted not as scary as your own experience but it is still pretty awful.  Even so I still have consumed alcohol.

Don't even dare type "you're not reading".  I am reading your posts very clearly and replying to them as they are written.

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Off Topic / Re: Alcohol Thread
« on: September 30, 2012, 07:37:48 PM »
Texting and driving is more dangerous than drinking and driving.

Its been proven on some sort of show, I forgot.
Texting And Driving Worse Than Drinking and Driving

The general idea is that texting while driving is equivalent to drinking 4 beers.

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Off Topic / Re: Return of the BandWagon (Photoshoopers Wanted)
« on: September 30, 2012, 07:37:03 PM »
There you are now INSIDE the wagon... As in, fused inside the wagon
[IM G]http://imageshack.us/a/img42/4455/returnofthebandwagoncop.png[/img]



You win!  Congratulations!!!

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Drama / Re: BubbaGun- Attention Whore
« on: September 30, 2012, 07:36:37 PM »
ew blod special interest gros
Hey what are you doing you're supposed to be inactive and comatose.

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Off Topic / Re: Alcohol Thread
« on: September 30, 2012, 07:34:24 PM »
Statistically speaking, more accidents are caused by alcohol alone than vehicles.  I'm arguing based off of statistic, again.  But, for the most part, you are aware of my argument -- the issue is that I'm presenting the concept the unnecessary risk isn't as reasonable as necessary risk.  Driving acts as a form of transportation, drinking only implies pleasure.
Citation needed on your statistic.  If you are so insistent on these statistics please show them to me.

Oh wait I found my own research piece to use (but please go ahead and post your statistics you keep referring to):
Texting And Driving Worse Than Drinking and Driving

Your statistics must be rather outdated.  By your logic btw, people should abstain from ever texting in order to prevent accidents caused by texting while driving.  Except texting, like alcohol, is such a large part of modern culture that it is incredibly difficult to avoid.  It isn't necessary risk anyway, you don't have to drink.  While some people here are probably trying to convince you to drink, I don't want to put off the message that you should be drinking.  If you're so insistent on never drinking then good for you but at this point you're almost forcing prohibition down our throats and treating anyone who has used alcohol as a severe alcoholic.  Again, yes, driving is a form of transportation but it IS also a pleasure.  You can't just ignore that fact.  It's a luxury like alcohol.  Using your logic again, it would be best to avoid all forms of driving completely in order to prevent traffic accidents.  Anyone who drinks alcohol isn't obligated to drive either.  When I was drunk last new years eve I didn't have any sudden idea to go play with guns or steal keys and go driving and I certainly would take measures to prevent anything like driving happening before I know I'm going to be intoxicated.

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Off Topic / Re: Alcohol Thread
« on: September 30, 2012, 07:25:27 PM »
When you put OTHER people at risk, you're acting like a selfish cunt and shouldn't be given the right to use the luxury.  I understand your point, and earlier I admitted to my point of immediate contact of alcohol (even though it is toxic to the body) to not be harmful enough to avoid forever, but that doesn't imply my argument is invalid.  I'm going off of statistic, not your personal belief of what is or isn't enjoyable.
Okay so what I'm understanding is your argument is that using alcohol irresponsibly is why you don't like alcohol?  I think this was stated at some point earlier but the fact is there will always be people who use things appropriately and abuse things inappropriately.  This includes alcohol, driving, marijuana, and anything with any degree of risk.  This is why "safe driving" campaigns exist, and why "responsible drinking" campaigns too, and also alcohol consumption laws.  Like always however there will be people bypassing these things and this is unavoidable without a death penalty for breaking these rules (which will never happen).  This is just the way things are and you will definitely have to accept them in life.

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Off Topic / Re: Alcohol Thread
« on: September 30, 2012, 07:18:53 PM »
I've been refuting them, and my most recent statements were, for the most part, ignored.  You should go back and check the replies arguing the statistic we were discussing.
Okay, I'll humor you then (again).

You mean getting stufffaced, even though it can harm others, it's justifiable because you're too pathetic to see past your own bias?  Having fun doesn't mean what you're doing is an appropriate behavior.  Unless, you know, you're stupid.
You're acting like taking a sip of alcohol causes you to get drunk instantaneously and that every person makes the worst possible choice ever while drunk.  I have been to parties where I've had the best fun in my life without the use of alcohol or drugs, and I've been to parties where I've drank and still had a good time.  I think I should be able to make this point pretty god damn clearly.  Being drunk isn't exactly "appropriate behavior" but in a setting like a party it's not like there are "behavior police" making sure no one is being drunk.

If you've ever seen any alcohol beverage commercial in the USA you will have seen and/or heard the line "enjoy responsibly", "drink responsibly", etc.  There is such thing as only drinking a little and enjoying being tipsy (the common term used for being only slightly drunk to the point where you are only relaxed in mood but not at all completely unable to make proper judgement).

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