What proof do you have that he says and if not or? He obviously came to fufill in terms of
His obvious mission was to fufill the law and let it come to pass as according to ginomai, and when he said "It is finished on the cross", he completed the fulfillment and allowed the law to pass.
As a side note:
"What proof do you have that he says and if not or? He obviously came to fufill in terms of"
There's no "or" anywhere in that sentence.
"His obvious mission was to fufill the law and let it come to pass as according to ginomai, and when he said "It is finished on the cross", he completed the fulfillment and allowed the law to pass."
When something "comes to pass" it happens, that phrase doesn't mean "end".
"A supporting point that expositors often ignore is the fact that Jesus applied plēroō to not just the law but also the prophets. Why is it that so many people who accept that Jesus fulfilled the Old Testament prophecies have a hard time understanding that, in the same way, He fulfilled the Old Testament laws—all of them? In fact, the two together—the law and the prophets—stand for the entire Old Testament. Matthew 22:40 tells us, for example, that upon the two great laws hang “all the law and the prophets.” Luke 16:16 says, “The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.” John the Baptist was the last of the Old Testament prophets. He forms the boundary between the Old and New Testaments, with their respective covenants. Acts 13:15 explains that “the law and the prophets,” obviously meaning the Old Testament, is read in the synagogue.
So, Jesus fulfilled, or brought to completion, the entire Old Testament. This is supported by many other Scriptures that I have often referenced in other articles on this website. As one example, read Romans 10:4: “For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.” The word “end” here is telos. This word means the aim (see Galatians 3:24); the termination, the limit at which something ceases to be (read Romans 6:14; 2 Corinthians 3:11-13; Ephesians 2:15; and Colossians 2:14)."
How many times do I have to tell you that FULFILLING A LAW DOESN'T VOID IT.
"And what commandments did Jesus mean when He said, “Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven”? (Matthew 5:19). Most assume that he meant the Ten Commandments. But He never says this. To properly understand, we must look to the context. And the context shows us that Jesus must be referring to the commandments He is about to give, the commandments of the New Covenant—commandments that, by the way, are continued through the rest of the New Covenant and are summed in one word, love. And love is something that only God works in us."
I'll accept this explanation.
EDIT: Read this too
2:30 PM - Wizzeh: what does everyone here think happens when a law is "fulfilled"
2:30 PM - Wizzeh: what does fulfilling a law mean
2:31 PM - Wizzeh: just a quick poll
2:31 PM - Tingalz: when a law is enforced?
2:31 PM - Bushido: ^
2:31 PM - Bushido: when someone breaks it
2:31 PM - Bushido: it gets to fufill itself?
2:31 PM - Tingalz: justice gets served and the criminal is punished
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