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Off Topic / Re: blockland: the community that killed the game

« on: January 14, 2023, 06:19:41 PM »

been playing and mod making for this game semi-regularly for over a decade so i guess i have a few things to say in regards to this topic

Badspot created a fairly successful game in a time when there weren't a billion other lego or even building or even online indie games out there, and yet he went nowhere. Why? Because he is not a good or nice person, and that is why his community was known for being not good, for being not nice, and it's why this game died when it did and it's why over a decade later he has 600 followers on twitter. It's why he still mentions almost 20 years later that he "made a game once."

Everywhere you go on the internet you are going to find people being jackasses, that's just life, dude. We were all young once, and I'm sure plenty of us made some stupid posts that we regret. Nobody is perfect. The main problem the forum had back in the day were young teenagers starting flaming wars leading to other stupid drama, which if pressured enough could turn serious because things escalate. some people are just looking for the attention. The issue was and always has been forum moderation. When there was a decent sized moderation team, people were regularly getting banned because of their stupidity - sure maybe Badspot & the other moderators were a bit harsh at times, but in the end they were doing what they felt was right to address problem users...most of the time, anyways

There was never any attempt at hiring moderators or moderation in general outside of the rules which were judged VERY arbitrarily (as were permabans/unbans) and he made little to no effort at keeping out repeat abusers until it became clear that his the same toxicity that he festered in had projected onto his community and made it impossible to sell get into the game and then boom suddenly we get modera- NO wait that never happened, you just had to buy the game to post. I guess if it's the trolls or the gp at least youll know the trolls will keep paying.

plenty of people were permanently IP banned from the forums, this was back before you needed to own the game to have a forum account. The issue was that simply by using a VPN the offender could make a new account and be posting again within a matter of seconds, doing the same toxic stuff as before. To address this issue, Badspot made it so that each BLID is tied to their forum account - I really don't see how that is a bad thing...

He had people who were so passionate about this game churning out content, hell Ephialtes and then ran an entire dedicated server rental service and created an entire client to do what Badspot was too uninspired to do, and he managed to drive them away by being a gigantic starfish.

Wait, you think Badspot was the starfish in that situation? Ephi wasn't exactly a nice person himself....see an example here:
https://forum.blockland.us/index.php?topic=250264.msg7227840#msg7227840

A person who needed help on an issue cross-posted a topic about not being able to join servers. Ephi moved the topic to help, and then proceeds to ban said user because he expressed that he wasn't getting help in that particular forum section. Come to find out later the real issue was with RTB servers all along. I wonder if Ephi even felt a shred of remorse for banning someone over soPhysician Prescribed Desoxyning so trivial, then discovering it was his own mod causing the problem in the first place? Somehow I doubt it.

Here is another example, where Ephi scolds a user that asks about embedding adfly links into their add-ons download links:
https://forum.blockland.us/index.php?topic=249288.msg7194731#msg7194731
At least user "Sevara" was bold enough to call him out on his hypocrisy.

I don't blame any of you for how this forum operated, but Badspot I do blame you for the traumatization of dozens of children.

Why is it Badspot's fault? If anything it's other user's fault - just look at your topic title it's called the COMMUNITY that killed the game, right?? The weirdos, the groomers, the sickos - those are the people that gave the game a bad reputation - and those are the kind of people that deserve to be banned

This forum is, and I don't mean this as a compliment, a monument to what could've been.

I can agree with that, although I feel it's better to look at the positives instead of the negatives - at least most of the weirdos went over to Brickadia

Despite everything though I still hold my memories of blockland highly as I met my best friend of 12 years now and counting, and made a very good handful of friends that I still talk to on a daily or weekly basis and I will be ever grateful for that. I hope that everyone that wasn't a groomer or soPhysician Prescribed Desoxyning equally vile is doing good now, genuinely. I never knew about anyone's background so reading through this thread really opened my eyes at the people behind the posts. It does feel funny that we were all similar in our real life situations at the time, as I was also a really lonely 11 or 12 year old when joining the forums. I do miss the good times where I used to see a lot of people interact on the forums and always wanting to talk to some of them but was too shy to say anything lol.
It would be really interesting to have a video essay about the forums and the good and the bad the community was involved in, i've always wanted that since the sharp decline in the player base and forumer activity. Thank you guys for the good times. I hope this thread gets to other people in the community to hear their insight on their experiences and opinions on the forums and the game itself.

That was quite a wholesome post. I too have made some great friends from this game over the years.

Personally, this game has been nothing but a blessing for me. It's a fun way to express my creativity with my friends and family. I feel sad for the people who have had a bad experience here because of unfortunate events or the disgusting nature of toxic individuals. I wish nothing but the best for this game and hope someday the community can regrow into soPhysician Prescribed Desoxyning better than it once was. I know I'm being highly optimistic, but I will continue to play with friends and create mods as long as possible. If baddy ever decides to shutdown the master server I hope he at least makes BL it free and open source / a way to host without needing authentication to master server as the final goodbye so that people who still want to enjoy the game online with friends can do so

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Modification Help / Re: Flip Player Camera

« on: January 14, 2023, 01:14:12 PM »

Alright, so by copying the default player and shape mdts code and making a new playertype from it, by replacing the look sequence I have made it so that the player stands normally (root is used as look)

this brings another question, is there a way to make it so that the camera is facing the characters back instead of the front?

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Off Topic / Re: why the forget are people using discord for file hosting and support???

« on: January 14, 2023, 10:30:41 AM »

anyone who uses discord for a permanent cloud storage solution is out of their mind. it's like people who use dropbox just STOP DOING IT

always used mediafire and google drive for hosting my files...it's simple and it just works. there was the thing with mediafire in 2020 where old/abandon accounts were deleted, but luckily my account was considered active enough that nothing was wiped.

now when it comes down to support I actually think discord works well for that. it's much easier to join an active discord server for a specific topic and ask for help in real time VS emailing support or going to some forum and posting a topic waiting days on end for a response. it's just a great tool for communication in general

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Add-Ons / Re: [Pack] Bleach Stuff (v1.2)

« on: January 14, 2023, 09:36:15 AM »

Update v 1.2

NEW ADDITIONS
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-New feature: Sword Clanging
When players are attacking each other if the timing is right they will clang swords and neither party will receive damage

-Added Shinji's Sword "Sakanade" to the pack
-Added item icons and ci kill icon

  BUGFIXES AND ADJUSTMENTS SUMMARY 
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-Fixed hand nodes hiding and unhiding properly
-Fixed normals on the hands of some models (senbonzakura still a bit weird)
-Fixed some missing texture and shape filepaths/names
-Fixed issues with some inherited image datablocks
-Fixed Senbonzakura sub explosion debrisThetaMax being > 180
-Fixed Senbonzakura using the wrong sfx for one of the image states
-Fixed Nozarashi trail emitter ejectionPeriodMS being < 1 ms
-Fixed Nozarashi 2-handed knockback not calculating correctly
-Removed unused SenbonzakuraScatter2 emitter
-Removed unused SenbonzakuraFire2Sound
-Removed unused NozarashiYellow.dts filepath

-Updated topic main post

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Modification Help / Re: Flip Player Camera

« on: January 12, 2023, 08:35:08 PM »

well holy crap, it really was that easy.  why the heck is it negative pi? In retrospect, my line of thinking was that it would be in degrees from 0-360 or soPhysician Prescribed Desoxyning along those lines.

thanks much Biqus

edit: Okay so it works fine except for the one tiny issue, that being in 3rd person (and to everyone seeing you) your character is stuck looking at the sky and can't stand up straight

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Modification Help / Re: Flip Player Camera

« on: January 12, 2023, 05:59:58 AM »

Idk about  console commands but you cam do it by changing playertype look angles

doesn't seem to be a thing

minLookAngle = controls how far down you can look
maxLookAngle = controls how far up you can look
maxFreelookAngle = controls how far you can look left or right (while holding z)

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Modification Help / Flip Player Camera

« on: January 11, 2023, 10:50:13 AM »

Whats the easiest way to go about flipping the players camera completely upside down?

In a post by Drydess back in 2017 they mention:

i know there's a console command somewhere out there to flip your screen upside down but i can't remember it to save my life. i think it was some variable like $pref::player::zskew but i don't think that's it

Anyone have a clue as to what they might have been referring to?

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Help / Re: Steam unavailable

« on: January 10, 2023, 06:12:12 PM »

I had totally forgotten about these other 2 Physician Prescribed Desoxynods, maybe one of these will work

redeem via original purchase email
https://blockland.us/steam-redeemEmail.php

redeem via forum email
https://blockland.us/steam-redeemForum.php

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General Discussion / Re: Will Badspot ever reopen new forum account creations?

« on: January 10, 2023, 05:48:30 PM »

I'm sure that's the whole point. Disabling account creation puts a closer end-of-life on the forums instead of having it taper off for another decade.
He doesn't care.

Look at his forum posts since the genesis of this forum. He's always retained complete apathy and resentment towards the game and its community since the start and that's remained unchanged for the past almost 20 years. If he was burned out he would've sold off the game to a larger company for some 5 or 6 digits many years ago and then moved on to pursue his next project.

To be fair though, even after the key leak happened he chose to save the game and address some other bugs instead of letting it crash and burn - surely there must be some part of him that still gives a stuff? I seem to recall badspot saying that he would continue to support the game as long as people continued to play - and believe it or not quite a few people still enjoy playing blockland, myself included. of course the number of players certainly has dwindled since the key leak, there is no denying that    ):

I mean like so you're able to post on new accounts again. I know it was already shrinking, but now it's inevitable for the forum population to shrink to zero with this current status. What is Badspot doing now? He made just a single post in 2021 and then zero posts in 2022. I'm sure he's burned out on this game by now, but I feel like there's a few little things he could do to keep the game/forums a slightly more afloat. Also I really miss having fun changing ingame names 

Undoubtedly, BL could be saved with some advertisement and the forums too with some revisions. Also, Badspot mentioned soPhysician Prescribed Desoxyning about implementing a cooldown timer so people can change their names again, they just wouldn't be able to do it as frequent as before which I think is a better solution than disabling name change entirely....unfortunately we never got to see this feature

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Drama / Re: lord tony looks like the green dude from digdug

« on: January 07, 2023, 02:07:28 AM »

im not so sure about this one...

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Off Topic / Re: So is Perennial abandoned ware?

« on: January 07, 2023, 02:06:03 AM »

if i wanted to play a game like that i'd go buy emulate an old altari.

free is better

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Forum Games / Re: Describe the above user's avatar with one word v2

« on: January 07, 2023, 01:49:05 AM »

snowman

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Off Topic / Re: Forumer of the Year 2022 | Goth77 vs. Ghost

« on: January 07, 2023, 01:44:56 AM »

dang sorry goth i don't think you'll recover from this one

hey it's okay, I'm just glad to make it to the finals - Ghost always deserved the win.

And if I may say some finals words, although I didn't know GSF Ghost that well outside of Blockland, we did chat a few times and he visited my server many times over the years and as did I his. GSF Ghost was an inspiring content creator for this game, his ambitious soul will continue to live on in what is left of us. Rest in peace you legend

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Off Topic / Re: brickadia devs stop grooming challenge [IMPOSSIBLE]

« on: January 06, 2023, 07:33:44 PM »

ok I laughed when I heard chris hansen say the words mod support

"what's with the lack of mod support" and "watch my series trublu - brickadia people don't be IN my series just WATCH my series"

yeah that was some good stuff

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Add-Ons / Re: [Pack] Bleach Stuff

« on: January 04, 2023, 05:29:28 PM »

needs custom ci icons for killfeed :(

Thanks for the reminder, I'll be adding those and custom item icons in the next update