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Off Topic / Re: POLITICS & DONALD Annoying Orange MEGATHREAD
« on: October 19, 2017, 05:21:47 PM »
Deus, you jump from "rich people shouldn't pay more in taxes because they earned that money" to "well rich people wouldn't pay more anyways because of offshore tax havens". If that's the case, then we just create more regulation to close those tax loopholes. If you're still opposed to higher tax rates for the rich then, you're just plainly opposed to the idea of higher tax rates for the rich no matter what.

But anyways

Yo can you guys shut the forget with this line of thinking? It is not "forget you I got mine" its "I shouldn't lose half my paycheck because I worked my loving ass off to make a six figure salary"

Most rich people don't put in a fraction of the work that a working-class day laborer would to attain their wealth. Most likely, they were either born and raised into it (hey, Annoying Orange) or got rich from ill-gotten gains

Your thought process is rich people need to share their wealth. Why? loving why? Just because? The government isn't a loving charity. Poor people don't just deserve a cut of rich people's money.

To benefit the rest of society that doesn't have access to those same benefits
More of a general point but unless you were born into the upper-class of society, you don't owe the rich anything. They owe you. Especially nowadays when income inequality is through the roof and you have this small group of people that control a huge amount of the wealth in the world, they ought to give back to us. Even a basic philosopher like Rawls would say that.

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Off Topic / Re: POLITICS & DONALD Annoying Orange MEGATHREAD
« on: October 19, 2017, 03:38:31 PM »
Or maybe it's because massive income inequality is corrosive to society and does not distribute wealth in a manner which maximizes living conditions.

No wait taxation is theft sorry I forgot

Nah man, all those rich people definitely earned their massive and ludicrous amount of wealth

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Off Topic / Re: POLITICS & DONALD Annoying Orange MEGATHREAD
« on: October 19, 2017, 02:13:43 PM »
Yeah bc communism involves simply taxing the richardforget out of the wealthy
That's literally it

That's one place to start

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Off Topic / Re: POLITICS & DONALD Annoying Orange MEGATHREAD
« on: October 19, 2017, 12:28:33 PM »
Marxism is defeated


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Off Topic / Re: POLITICS & DONALD Annoying Orange MEGATHREAD
« on: October 19, 2017, 12:01:24 PM »
Can we just deport Tristan to the DPRK already? Thats clearly what he wants the world to be like and he clearly hates america and all the values she stands for.

Only a nerd would refer to a country as a "she"

How are you going to confiscate and distribute wealth without a strong central government to enforce it?

People don't give up wealth of their own volition under marxist systems. It's forcibly confiscated. Without a government to enforce some semblance of law, however, I'd imagine an attempt at seizing the property of the wealthy would devolve into flat out anarchy relatively quickly.

Someone's obviously never read Kropotkin before

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Off Topic / Re: POLITICS & DONALD Annoying Orange MEGATHREAD
« on: October 18, 2017, 11:00:03 PM »
I think if you wanna talk communism, go to a Stalinist tankie subreddit and debate those starfishs
I believe Marx absolutely nails labor and capital, but I'm not a communist.

I'd say both communism and national socialistsm are bad, but if you weigh the two together national socialistsm comes out as the more inherently evil ideology

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Off Topic / Re: POLITICS & DONALD Annoying Orange MEGATHREAD
« on: October 18, 2017, 10:53:05 PM »
Communism has literally killed more people than national socialists ever have so what in the actual forget are you even talking about
Okay let's go over this really quick
>state becomes communist
>communist state begins Flash Mobing people

So communism ends with Flash Mob, end of discussion, thanks for the talk

You've already lost when you have to recenter the debate on communism
We weren't talking about Stalin or Mao, we were talking about Richard Spencer. Can we discuss and debate the ethics of that instead of diverting the topic to communism

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Off Topic / Re: POLITICS & DONALD Annoying Orange MEGATHREAD
« on: October 18, 2017, 10:41:31 PM »
this is too easy

Nobody said that
There's plenty of conservatives that are more sympathetic than opposed to the "alt-right" but not every conservative is a Pepe

idk ask Leisure "IRA" O'Suit

I'm not Irish but I do like potatoes so idk

Damn bro I didn't know you hated the left too

Don't think the modern left has ever advocated for genocide but ok

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Off Topic / Re: POLITICS & DONALD Annoying Orange MEGATHREAD
« on: October 18, 2017, 10:37:45 PM »
tfw people think liberalism is "leftist"

It's like the overton window in American society has been pushed so far right that bougie Hollywood executives and NYT op-ed writers are considered Marxists and socialists

cant we all just put our left and right differences aside and agree that punching people for expressing their opinion is loving handicapped

You know I'd agree with you if it wasn't about people who believe in truly evil ideologies that advocate for genocide

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Off Topic / Re: POLITICS & DONALD Annoying Orange MEGATHREAD
« on: October 18, 2017, 10:34:10 PM »
except the government can be voted out way easier than leftist institutions can be changed, try again

If these "leftist" institutions (that aren't really leftist or socialist by any stretch, really) had as much power as you assign them, Hillary Clinton would be president.

they kinda cut off the punch line with the whole knifey knifey stabby thing

A shame, really

It's always hilarious to see how large the left's ego is inflated when it comes to stuff like this. It's like they unironically believe that sucker punching some redditor they disagree with and then running away is the same thing as raiding the beaches of Normandy to take down the third Reich. You're not gonna get there with safe spaces.

Leftists are simultaneously dangerous, rioting animals that need to be culled but also whiny babies that constantly shelter themselves

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Off Topic / Re: POLITICS & DONALD Annoying Orange MEGATHREAD
« on: October 18, 2017, 10:13:04 PM »
the dude thinks people with a different skin color are inherently inferior. yea he did

Pretty telling how conservatives turn a blind eye to any kind of political violence against minorities, yet when some glib national socialist in a suit gets punched in the face it's abhorrent behavior.

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Off Topic / Re: POLITICS & DONALD Annoying Orange MEGATHREAD
« on: October 18, 2017, 10:05:43 PM »
The strangest SJW encounter I've had was when like 8 people randomly stopped me and recognized my American after asking me to get a drink with them at the on-campus bar even though they were all total strangers. Then they kinda interrogated me about who I voted for in the election while simultaneously demanding that I answer with "Hillary Clinton". That's probably just normal leftist behavior, but the strange part was that they were all polish.

This definitely happened

except the right doesn't have the backing of the media, the entertainment industry, academia and all the other important institutions (minus the government)

meaning that the left has done a pretty good job convincing people that they are the evil, selfish ones

it's generally agreed upon on the right that punching people over their politics is evil, as is shutting down people for their politics

you'll definitely see more people on the left doing what I described than on the right

The L E F T has the backing of media, entertainment industry and academia, institutions that don't actually govern or really make any kind of public policy

For conservatives it always goes back to cultural resentment and cults of personalities around celebrities.

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Off Topic / Re: POLITICS & DONALD Annoying Orange MEGATHREAD
« on: October 18, 2017, 01:28:58 PM »
If Sessions doesn't fire and/or charge them he needs to be dropkicked

That's a great way to get Annoying Orange charged with obstruction of justice

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