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« on: June 07, 2011, 01:53:34 AM »
Pipe dreams. All of it. Pipe dreams.
No, no you're absolutely right about every last detail you put into that long winded post that most people here will not have the attention span to read let along glance at.
However, the sheer amount of things you'd have to change, let alone the sheer amount of things that just physically could not be changed, makes everything you said completely irrelevant to a current state of society. First, humans are greedy, self centered bastards. Second, humans work on the principles of cause and effect, the idea of conditioning. We have trained ourselves in what we call morals. Even in your perfect system, one day there'd be a guy who decides to break the status-quo because he thinks he's a god-damned individualist. You just described a system with no laws that are automated by machines. We created the machines, and so we can very well destroy them. When this "freedom fighter" goes about and uproots everything you described thanks to his own human error, no one will know what to do. They'll have relied on the automation their entire lives. This forgettard and his revolution will take over the whole damn system and we'll have to start over again.
Now, can it work? Sure. It might actually work. Who knows. Maybe we'll get lucky and thousands of years of human evolution will be stopped in a couple of decades. The problem is, we're designed to biologically fight to prevail. Unless there is a strong, emotional attachment to another human being, we could give two stuffs about his or her life and or well being.
Now, don't get me wrong, I'm trying to stuff on you because I have this abundant desire to inflate my ego like some other members, I really did take the time to read it all, and I loved a lot of what you had to say. But we live in the real world where Utopian stuff just won't fly with modern people. Mostly because people are richards. Our systems of Government, at least in the major powers of the world, are based around the choice of the people, and it'd be very, very hard to convince someone not to work without money. As soon as you get that far and you'd have lost half of your audience, assuming you're speaking to a lot of uneducated people. Which, again, you would be.
I'd love to see this system of yours work. I really would. But let's face it. It'd be so hard to implement it, that, there's really no point in trying it. Perhaps someday when we've evolved far enough to the point that everyone on the planet is at least as smart as a high school graduate, but still putting in the same amount of effort we put in today, then you'd be able to convince a mass public to this idea. Until then, we need to think in terms of how things work now. Think instead of in "what-ifs" but rather in "how-can." As in: "how can I implement these core ideas to still function within the society I have to work with?"
Perhaps keep the idea of creating goods designed to function for as long as possible in the most efficient way. Perhaps mandate a law that states no good can be made without a strict 'code of usefulness' applied to it. Keep the idea about localized work forces. Give incentives to large business owners, and small ones alike, that manufacturing domestically would be a better choice. Something being implemented now is the use of alternative energy, perhaps you could speed up the process instead of weening people off of it like we're trying to today?
There are many ways that a lot of your ideology could greatly benefit the society we have right now, putting us at a surplus economically, that could then harbor a greater future for everyone. I think if you think fundamentally while also in the same frame of mind you brought to everything you stated above, you can truly strengthen humanity for the better, without worrying too much about the huge protests that would be brought about when the masses got wind of your idea.
Really, be a politician if you can. Don't be corrupted and keep this ideology you have firm and you could really make a difference in the world.
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