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Off Topic / Re: Add Me on Steam

« on: July 01, 2014, 01:47:11 PM »

But he wasn't asking for friendship...? :o

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Off Topic / Re: Why don't we have a food that includes all vitamins we need?

« on: July 01, 2014, 01:45:19 PM »

do you have links or sources for them?

I already said my only source is the documentary and that I'd try to find the name.

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Off Topic / Re: Post real life pictures of yourself.

« on: July 01, 2014, 01:42:57 PM »

I cannot wait for you to turn 18

But... nothing will change for you. :/

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Off Topic / Re: Why don't we have a food that includes all vitamins we need?

« on: July 01, 2014, 01:42:10 PM »

instead of saying there is so many examples, at least post one or two

I already did, in my first post. I understand it was long though, any many people probably didn't want to read it fully.

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Off Topic / Re: Why don't we have a food that includes all vitamins we need?

« on: July 01, 2014, 01:39:14 PM »

It's great that you're healthy and whatnot, but that doesn't really change anything. The evidence isn't there and you're not credible.It's hard to absolutely disprove, but it's pretty easy to cast doubt on. Maybe the person changed their diet, maybe it was placebo effect, maybe it was cosmic radiation (spookey). Oh, and there's the issue that it was a single patient (based on what you said in 1st post.)Ok, you MUST have left something out in your first post, because all I saw you talking about were two separate cases.

EDIT:Alrighty dude, can you link us to any studies on this treatment? Also, for future reference, try not to commit any fallacies (I know medical schooling & licensure wasn't super well developed at the start of the 20th cen.)

I hate to say it, but this is a pretty poor argument. If you seriously expect me to fill up the character limit with examples, you're dead wrong. They're examples for a reason.

Also, a diet change could have the same effects, considering that's where many vitamins come from. Freeing yourself from cancer that way would take waaaaaay longer, if it even worked at all.

The best I can do is tell you the name of the documentary I watched. Of course, people will only use this as fuel for the fire... :/

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Off Topic / Re: miscellaneous modelling question: Can Milkshape export to Unity?

« on: July 01, 2014, 01:27:53 PM »

Also .blend files, but I don't suggest it.

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Off Topic / Re: Why don't we have a food that includes all vitamins we need?

« on: July 01, 2014, 01:27:03 PM »

for all i know you could be a basement dweller who never leaves the house therefore never exposing themselves to health risks.

by the way this documentary. did they do this same experiment to over a dozen people to conclude its not just coincidence or some sort of placebo effect happening on the person? did they tell them "here this pill will make you all better"? was this a safe method to produce real authentic results?

First off, even being a basement dweller doesn't do much to keep you from health risks (not by that much, at least). Also, no, I'm not. In fact, I Rollerblade 2 miles daily.

In terms of the documentary, it's not an "experiment". This treatment has been used on hundreds or thousands of patients. In fact, one of the people who discovered this effect was one of Einstein's smart buddies (no joke). However, most people in the medical industry ignored him simply because he had no medical degree, and therefore couldn't be trusted. However, he was one of the most brilliant men of the time and Einstein's personal friend. Did the professionals care? Nope.
Also, don't diss the smoothie yo.

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Off Topic / Re: miscellaneous modelling question: Can Milkshape export to Unity?

« on: July 01, 2014, 01:19:51 PM »

Oh.
Now I feel invisible... ;~;

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Off Topic / Re: Why don't we have a food that includes all vitamins we need?

« on: July 01, 2014, 01:14:15 PM »

So now you've devolved into saying "you're wrong because I said so", and I'm just going to ignore you.

No, my statement is 100% valid. It's not because I "say so", it's because it's true. Logic simply doesn't work like that. The reason I kept that comment short is because I'm trying (and apparently failing) to not waste my life debating with people I don't know and will never change their view anyway.

yeah ok, lets not get ahead of ourselves here

What.

So what do you suppose we do? Overload our bodies with vitamins and see if we die? I don't understand why you think that placing trust in someone else is a bad thing. It's not a question of if you're placing trust, but a question of who you're placing trust in. Scientific articles and clinical studies tend to be more credible than independent documentaries sponsored by 'natural health' groups.

Ah okay, then what you're saying makes slightly more sense. I agree that it won't harm you, you simply urinate out unused water-soluble vitamins, but I disagree that they have magical properties that cure cancer and depression.

I'm glad to see that some people can be reasonable. However, it's not a matter of disagreement. People have actually been treated that way and been healed. There were no other factors; they didn't undergo any other treatments. The facts are the facts. I'm not claiming that it's 100% foolproof, but those patients sure do have a heck of a lot larger survival rate than other cancer patients. Oh, and while I'm on the topic of survival rates, that's another thing the media has skewed when it comes to cancer. The usually consider it "survival" only 5 months after the treatment, even though many people still die from the cancer after that period.

The problem is that a lot of "evidence" is found in ways that are highly flawed, or even complete bullstuff
Since very few people have the time to do a proper critical brown townysis of all the findings, it's not bad to simply follow what major scientific groups say
I'm not bashing you or anything for it, I'm just saying I personally give the source zero trust if I don't even know what it is
There's no way to not do this, because no one has the knowledge, time, and resources to conduct all these studies themselves

Sure, "evidence" and even "proof" have been shown to be wrong many, many times. I totally agree. All I'm saying is it's pretty hard to disprove the fact that someone got better when given extra vitamins, for many people.

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Off Topic / Re: What would you do if you had to spend the night with the above users avatar V2

« on: July 01, 2014, 01:03:42 PM »

Train him to catch me dinner


from the grocery store.

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Off Topic / Re: miscellaneous modelling question: Can Milkshape export to Unity?

« on: July 01, 2014, 01:01:48 PM »

What are the exporting options? It can do .obj, right? Unity supports most major 3D file types.

Unity supports plenty of 3D file types.

just export to .obj and import it into Unity

Umm...

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Forum Games / Re: YOU LAUGH YOU LOSE v666

« on: July 01, 2014, 01:01:09 PM »

Oh. I dunno. Maybe...

BECAUSE YOU DON'T HOLD A PISTOL AT YOUR HIP?!

Sheesh...

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Off Topic / Re: Why don't we have a food that includes all vitamins we need?

« on: July 01, 2014, 12:59:44 PM »

my point is both sides of the arguments are inherently questionable because there is always someone placing trust in someone else

you're a smart person, I really shouldn't have to spell this out


now as far as the actual argument is concerned, if you can overdose on one thing you can overdose on something else, your body is a giant cluster of chemical reactions, if you put the wrong ingredients in, or put in the wrong amounts of the right ingredients, bad stuff's gonna go down

why do you think poison works

or any drug/medication for that matter

Sorry, but that's flawed logic. You're oversimplifying it all.

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Off Topic / Re: miscellaneous modelling question: Can Milkshape export to Unity?

« on: July 01, 2014, 12:57:54 PM »

What are the exporting options? It can do .obj, right? Unity supports most major 3D file types.

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Off Topic / Re: Why don't we have a food that includes all vitamins we need?

« on: July 01, 2014, 12:56:31 PM »

"Oh I saw it in a video it must be true" I don't think this way. Out of anyone I've ever met, I'm still the least affected by what the media tells me without questioning it's validity. However, when they provide substantial proof to back up their claims, I'm inclined to believe them.
I find US dept of health websites (http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/VitaminA-HealthProfessional/#h8 , http://www.niams.nih.gov/Health_Info/Bone/Bone_Health/Nutrition/vitamin_a.asp#c ) much more reputable than an unnamed documentary Not saying this is misinformation, but you shouldn't trust one source more than another based solely on rep. I make it a point to take both sides and evaluate them. If I had found that there was very poor evidence backing up what I said, I wouldn't be supporting it in the first place.
Oh yeah these definitely aren't bad These are short-term side effects that you can make a full recovery from. It's far better than being a cancer patient, I assure you.
Yeah, I recently added a lot more fresh produce to my diet, and since then I've been feeling a lot better - less stomach pains, more energetic, etc.
Water-soluble vitamins are expelled with urine, yes, but fat-soluble ones are not. This is my fault for not clarifying this, whoops.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypervitaminosis

Idk, it seems like the documentary you watched was full of stuff.

Fat soluble vitamins are different. I should have clarified, I'm talking about the vitamins that don't build up in your system.

From what I've read, the pro-vitamin evidence is wish-washy at best and vice-versa. Although there may be specific cases where taking a bunch of a vitamin can improve health outcomes, this documentary sounds more like it's anti-pharmaceutical propaganda than anything else. Also, there's the fact that you're a anti-vaccine, "only natural stuff" kinda guy, which doesn't inspire confidence. But what do I know, I'm just a big pharma sheeple.

You're right, I am pro-natural. But I'd also like to point out (not trying to brag or anything) that I'm probably one of the healthiest members on the forums. I've never had any sickness but the common cold (maybe the flu once), I've not had an infection once, I've never been to the hospital or doctor for anything since birth except checkups and a broken pinkie. If I start eating junk for any extended period of time, m body starts to reject it, and I usually just want a huge salad at that point. Laugh at me all you want, but this method is tried and true and has been for centuries. It's not my business if people choose to ignore it, but I know from many years of actual experience (which I doubt many of you can claim to have) that it's no joke. I'm not trying to start anything, so please don't treat this like I am.

It literally makes me cringe whenever people dispute the accuracy of Wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reliability_of_Wikipedia

inb4 "it's wikipedia so their article on their own reliability is unreliable!"

For the most part, I agree. There have been a couple articles I've seen that have been somewhat skewed, but for the most part it's pretty darn accurate. Also, hasn't it been discussed that not just anyone can edit a Wikipedia article? I know someone mentioned this in one of those school firewall threads.

The documentary is completely unnamed
The wikipedia article has citations you can crosscheck

Although I hope you realize the only reason it's "unnamed" is simply because I can't remember it off of the top of my head, right? I did say I'd try to find the title.