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Games / Re: E3/EA Play 2017 Megathread: Bethesda in 3 hours!
« on: June 11, 2017, 07:27:15 PM »
Well, Microsoft had some hilarious moments. Burst out laughing at the name "Xbox One X". Also loved how the spokesperson actually slipped up and said Xbone. Was worried for a moment that they forgot to bring in a car for the zero people who came to E3 to see a car, but not only did they deliver, they somehow snuck a piano on the stage when nobody was looking too.

Aside from that seemed pretty boring. Highlights were Screedgypt, which then got booted out the window by Shadow of Wardor, alongside Bioware's Horizon Zero Dawn with power armor and jetpacks.

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Modification Help / Re: How to get animations to work?
« on: March 30, 2017, 09:36:16 AM »
Did you use the animation name as the stateSequence of your fire state?

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Modification Help / Re: Function for finding BL_ID
« on: March 24, 2017, 10:32:24 AM »
Just dropping in to say: stop locking all your damn help topics here.

There is no good reason to forcefully halt discussion in them and several good reasons not to. Even when you think your problem is solved, you may be wrong. In one of your earlier threads, I was going to provide you with some advice, only to find when I hit post that the thread was locked with a "nvm solved it" that will help absolutely nobody who have a similar issue who find that thread in the future. On top of that, later the thread was unlocked because you realized you were wrong, but my response was already lost. Even more, people may chime in to correct an inaccurate answer someone else posted, or ask further questions on the same subject, or provide a solution for future reference when the OP fails to indicate what solved their problem, or yell at someone for bad coding help etiquette.

It's not helpful to anyone and can be harmful to the board. Don't do it.

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Modification Help / Re: Cancelling a function
« on: January 10, 2017, 08:23:27 AM »
But, why is it called that and not PlayerData?
PlayerData is the type of datablock. I'm pretty sure it is possible to declare methods as PlayerData::doAThing(... without any issue, but Armor has been a convention for player datablock class names since the early days. I believe it comes from Tribes 2, where player datablocks were things like LightMaleHumanArmor, or HeavyBiodermArmor, and Armor was the class name for all player datablocks. Presumably this allowed for players datablocks to exist that didn't inherit the usual behaviors, though I'm not sure that functionality was utilized. It definitely wasn't when Blockland was built on top of all that, and like many other aspects of Torque in Blockland, it's been neglected to the point where its original benefits have been lost and yet changing it would be a nightmare to do.

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Modification Help / Re: Cancelling a function
« on: January 09, 2017, 01:54:59 PM »
also it should not cause any issue but you should keep the second argument on a 'global' schedule as 0, as its a backward ass way of setting a schedule on an object, and if that number doesnt refer to an existing object (in the case of 1 that you have) the schedule might not end up occurring
schedule(time,0,function,args);

to call a schedule on an object you should use this format %obj.schedule(time,function,args);
Stop spreading this goddamn misconception. You're right that it should be 0 if you don't want to use it, and you're right about the correct way to schedule a method, but the 'global' schedule function's second parameter is not meant as an alternative to the method version %object.schedule(). Cancelling the schedule when the specified object is nonexistent is exactly the purpose of that parameter. It is not in any way used to call a method on an object and I've never encountered any Torque documentation that says otherwise.

The point of setting that argument is to set a dependency for the schedule. For example, if you wanted to call a server command on the server side in a schedule, you could use schedule(5000, %client, serverCmdLight, %client); which would automatically cancel the schedule if the client disconnected. You could also make it dependant on another object like %client.player, which would cancel it if they died (and the corpse despawned).

In this case, with schedule(1800, 0, KeiCarRacingSpeedCheck, %this, %col);, the function in question is dependant on its %obj parameter. While there's currently no issue if the schedule goes off after that object is deleted due to the if(!isObject(%obj)) return; part at the top of the function, it wouldn't be an inherently bad idea to include the dependency parameter set to the appropriate object: schedule(1800, %col, KeiCarRacingSpeedCheck, %this, %col);. In this manner you'd avoid errors in the case that the scheduled function is written to assume its parameters already exist, so I'd say it's good practice to do anyway.

I've looked this up ages ago, debated it with several coders here, thoroughly tested it on multiple versions of the engine, and used it in practice. I'm 99% sure I'm right about this, and that last 1% is only due to several respectable coders around here continually saying otherwise despite showing me nothing that would give any reason to believe that.

In short:
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schedule(1000, 0, func, args) -> wait 1000ms then call func(args)
obj.schedule(1000, func, args) -> wait 1000ms then if obj exists call obj.func(args)
schedule(1000, obj, func, args) -> wait 1000ms then if obj exists call obj.func(args) except it doesn't work lol so I guess that parameter is useless WRONG
schedule(1000, obj, func, args) -> wait 1000ms then if obj exists call func(args) RIGHT

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Off Topic / Re: #Pizzagate
« on: December 28, 2016, 11:29:15 PM »


The basics of modern civilization are built on the backs of hard working Arabians. Maybe we SHOULD consider Sharia Law, they've been right on everything else so far. Quit your Islamophobic bigotry.
That image is a joke, right? Nobody could seriously believe that Muslims were the only ones capable of creating music before they shared that gift with the rest of the world, right?

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Off Topic / Re: #Pizzagate
« on: December 28, 2016, 03:50:12 PM »
why is a perfectly sited, organized document not good enough for you? even if it was created by 4chan tin-hatters?

i understand this situations totally bonkers, but i honestly cant see how you can look at this document and be so quick to dismiss it as nothing. or more so, just how you can be so hostile to it. yall act genuinely bothered by the fact people look into this simply because what, its stupid and silly?
Are you joking? I'm 14 pages into this mess despite starting to question why I'm bothering with this 8 pages ago. I wish they had clearly marked the "here's a pile of random child enthusiasm-rings that may or may not have happened so we can establish child enthusiast-rings exist" so I could skip it. Thankfully they started linking tangentially related hour long plus YouTube videos that no sane person has the patience to sit through, inserting images of text that were so compressed that they were literally unreadable, and occasionally stating things that a quick google search disproves (like the crazy guy who was obviously murdered because dying of cancer is just a myth made up by the lizard people I guess), so I didn't feel too bad for skipping most of it anyway.

At the moment I'm on the part about the code words.
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FOOD-RELATED KEYWORDS USED TO SPEAK IN CODE
Out of 2,060 total emails in the first Podesta collection, there are 149 instances of “pizza”, 73 of hot dog, 85 of cheese, 78 of pasta, 41 of sauce, 84 of ice cream and 47 of walnut.

...

An innocuous, non-code-word junk food like “French fries” only appears 13 times. “Milkshake” only appears six times. “Vegetable” only appears 24 times. “Pear” only appears 25 times. “Grape” only appears six times. "Avocado” only appears four times. “Strawberry” only appears twice. None of these are code words.
"These words are code words because they've passed the arbitrary usage threshold so therefore we've decided they're code words now."

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Although “walnut” appears 47 times in very strange ways, the equally popular nut “cashew” doesn’t appear even once. This is most likely because “walnut” is a code word and “cashew” is not.
Pretty sure I've only heard cashews mentioned like 4 or 5 times in my life, but okay, I'll bite, what's the metric here for popularity? How does the demographic used in that statistic compare to the people holding events in these emails involving walnut related foods? I searched my own emails and found several hits for "walnut" and none for "cashew"; guess that means I'm in on it!

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“hotdog” = boy
“pizza” = girl
“cheese” = little girl
“pasta” = little boy
“ice cream” = male prostitute
“walnut” = person of color
“map” = semen
“sauce” = orgy
Well okay, let's attempt to put these in context with a random email from the list.
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>>But walnut sauce for the pasta? Mary, plz tell us the straight story, was the sauce actually very tasty?
So an orgy of black people that somehow involves a young boy? Not clear how, though. Also apparently involved Mary Podesta, who is asked for an opinion? Need more context. Let's look at the response!
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> It's an amazing Ligurian dish made with crushed walnuts made into a paste.
Dear god! They're crushing up multiple people of color and pouring them on a child! This must be some sort of satanic ritual with no other possible interpretation! Unless... crush is another code word! It's used 99 times so it must be. I'm going to decide it means "embezzle four billion dollars from," because that is how evidence of crimes works. Those fiends!

Seriously though do I have to read the rest of this to decide it's insane? It's 60 goddamn pages and I can't even take it seriously for more than a few.

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i don't really like nick, but i don't believe his ban was justified
He rushed to the defense of the indefensible. He should have been shut down the moment he said
No support because it's funny

The kind of person who gives Ravencroft's behavior here a pass for no reason other than being friends with him (and instead taking the time to insult the ones complaining) does not belong here.
because watching people get their panties in a bunch always manages to make me chuckle. Add in the fact that i'm friends with both the person being drama'd and the OP and this is going to be one loving hilarious drama

And apparently by losing 4 accounts like this, he's now ban on sight. Seems like he was an irredeemable jackass.

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Off Topic / Re: #Pizzagate
« on: December 11, 2016, 04:47:45 AM »
so basically "I don't like arguing with theorists because they give me information and evidence to support their claim".
More like "I don't like arguing with conspiracy theorists because they give me so much information and evidence that does not support their claim." Just because it's tangentially relevant and can be interpreted as significant when you apply the "everything is connected, nothing is as it seems, and nothing happens by accident" mindset, does not mean it's actually sufficient to support the absolutely absurd theories on show here.

so the process of an investigation and the mindset of seeing connections is demented somehow? Because that's literally how all investigations ever carried out in all of human history have been structured.
It is when you get carried away with it. A proper investigation rules out connections that are too flimsy to be of use, and focuses on the promising leads. A conspiracy theory investigation has no quality control for when dumbasses are linking two businesses together with a telephone style chain of affiliations and thematic similarities. Everyone just takes pathetic connections like those and runs with them, gathering more bullstuff into the web and never looking back.

The chain of "weak affiliations" you described there is not only pretty rhetorical but doesn't represent what is happening here whatsoever, there is no "my cousins friend's uncle's brother" stuff going on here, there are direct affiliations to these sketch people that the Clinton's/Podesta's have here.
It happens all the time. See the pizza place that was named the same as one which was a shareholder in a shareholder in a shareholder etc. into one that was involved in a money laundering scheme a few years ago. Sure there might be some solid links in there but it's not worth reading over until someone can carve it out from all the useless drivel. Know anyone who's actually done that? I looked the other night on the Voat community for such a thing and found someone hopping through a few companies, a few personal affiliations, and some other leaps of logic to bring the MK-Ultra bullstuff into the loop, which was almost a proof by reduction that they were completely demented.

But apparently when one thing heavily relates to another thing through direct relations it's just a non-coherent idea, keep telling yourself that kiddo because that's not how this stuff works.
A chain is only as strong as its weakest link. You may indeed find many valid and solid connections while obsessively researching leads at random, but it doesn't support the core theory at all if you have to get to it through a nonsensical conjecture somewhere down the line, and everyone seems to ignore those.

I absolutely respect the first part there, but the people doing this aren't "insane" by any means, their just taking it upon themselves to carry it out because the FBI or any branch of the government won't themselves.
Or they already have, through non-ridiculous means, and found nothing?  But hey, if an authority figure says something that indicates you may be wrong, it must mean that they're in on it, right?

And the being presented in a stuffty way part is loving great, it's not like detailed info-graphics and multiple compiles of information have been gathered already to present this to people who have a hard time going through it all themselves, not to mention said info-graphics and compiles of info being linked and posted in this thread multiple times already.
Almost every "info-graphic" I've seen so far has been a jumble of screenshots where I can only imagine someone has deliberately put in the effort to arrange them in a way that relays as few conclusions as possible.  I have seen a couple that graphically show how X is linked to Y, in turn linked to Z, and so on, but that just goes back to my earlier point that chains of links made by people who fixate on the strong ones and take the weak ones for granted are inadmissible. The compilations end up being jumbles of more and more links that again, do very little to tie back into this central theory. Maybe I've just been clicking on all the pointless links by random chance, but there really shouldn't be any of these tangentially related articles that form no conclusions in them in the first place. It's all quantity over quality taken to a ridiculous extreme. So yes, I do think it's presented in a stuffty way. Conspiracy theorists seem to have a knack for it, in my experience.

"disregard for attention to detail", yet this entire investigation has had complete regard for attention to detail, how can you not exhibit that when going through 30,000+ emails....
In the collection phase, granted. I was referring to the part where you take stock of everything collected. How often do you see someone say "hmm, this link seems really flimsy, can we get something more solid here before bothering to investigate this further" in a conspiracy theory investigation? I suppose it's perfectly okay to ignore the weak links if you take it for granted that there are an infinite number connections to be found between any two things anyway, and once you've found one chain you can draw whatever conclusions make both parties seem as nefarious as possible.

once more "I don't want to listen to you because you're giving me information and making me read".
If you hand me a five foot stack of papers, and I read a few pages and find that they're bullstuff, I'm not going to subject myself to the rest of them before reaching the conclusion that there was no quality control involved. Even if a few pages in that pile are solid, because of the wide range on display I'd just attribute it to random chance rather than the result of any of your efforts, and tell you to go back and filter it down to the ones that aren't a waste of my loving time.

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Off Topic / Re: #Pizzagate
« on: December 10, 2016, 03:44:00 AM »
let's see how many times Jetz insulted and defamed everyone who agrees with Pizzagate along with the evidence supporting it instead of being reasonable like Perry by giving his thoughts on the subject and having a conversation with provided evidence.

I love it when people like you come around, because instead of actually discussing the content in question and conversing reasonably with all the so called "idiots", you compare everything to some mundane task that has absolutely no depth/relation to the actual subject.

how you expect anyone to take you seriously when all you're doing is insulting everyone for their opinions and completely ignoring the evidence gathered which heavily relates to child trafficking, child enthusiasm, and satanism/occultism, and instead transferring this huge in-depth complicated subject into a very simple and unrelated mundane task to display how "stupid" and "idiotic" it is beyond me.
Rest assured that I'm not ridiculing you because I'm unwilling to debate something properly, it's because I find your position absurd and impossible to respect. I've argued with conspiracy theorists in the past. They always end up dragging me through a bunch of articles or videos that are either only tangentially relevant to the severe claims they make, or are produced by other conspiracy theorists citing sources that fall into the former category. There is always more of it, and my answer is often a variation on "the relevance of this to your central claim is pure conjecture, based on very loose connections." So why shouldn't I cut out the middleman, and look at why I'm getting all this bullstuff that elicits the same response so consistently?

Most of the evidence for these conspiracies is gathered in the demented mindset that everything is connected, using the theory as a starting point and then gathering anything and everything that might fit into the equation, hoping someone smarter will sort it all out once all the pieces are found. Sometimes one of them tries, and it ends up being an absurdly long chain of weak affiliations - "X was once a partner of Y whose company employed W who once shared an elevator ride with Z whose Wikipedia page is only 6 links away from Adolf Riddler." I like that you used the phrase "heavily relates to" because that's exactly the point I'm making: the people investigating this are not creating any coherent idea. They're just making a huge pile of things that "heavily relate to" one, and then use those to sell the idea as solid.

The funny thing is, you could be totally right. The random-ass pizza shop could be the headquarters for a child enthusiast ring operated by government officials using mentally conditioned lab grown people to stage false flag attacks. I don't see any reason to write any theory off as definitely false until comprehensively disproven, but that doesn't mean I need to pay any attention to it when it's presented in such a stuffty way, and when Occam's Razor is usually pretty effective when dealing with the ramblings of insane people. The absolute disregard for attention to detail by the mob of people investigating it have sabotaged any chance of it being taken seriously by non-crazy people.

So unless your claim is that child enthusiasm exists in the world and anyone regardless of their career path can choose to partake in it (which admittedly I can't disprove), you'll need to do something more straightforward than handing me jumbles of links and expecting me to read through them all in hopes that I suffer the same mental glitch that you did.

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Off Topic / Re: #Pizzagate
« on: December 06, 2016, 02:11:47 AM »
can someone pls summarise this for me im rly confused
Crazy person jumbles a bunch of text together with random words underlined, other crazy and dumb people decide it's worth investigating. Investigation being conducted by stupid investigators begets a ton of flimsy scraps of "evidence" that were gathered because they may be relevant to the conclusion they're using as a premise rather than as the idea needing confirmation. Nobody bothers to investigate any of this "evidence" in detail, just uses it to branch outward to gather more of it. Idiots get more sure of their theory because of the amount of "evidence" they've amassed, not because any coherent conclusion has been drawn from it. New ones join in for the same reason.

It's like a huge mound of sticks, and people are going around collecting more and adding them to to the pile, with the expectation that eventually it will turn into a log cabin. Too insubstantial to use as the foundation for building one, too big of an unorganized mess to search for any pieces of wood that would actually be useful for such a task, and you can pick any one of the sticks out of the pile and snap it in half to try and show how useless the material is when gathered so thoughtlessly. But there are too many to do that to all of them, so they'll just tell you, "no, no, there must be something to all this, look how big the pile of sticks is!"

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Off Topic / Re: #Pizzagate
« on: December 05, 2016, 02:53:04 PM »
information update
a voat user made connections between Besta Pizza and $240,000,000 in laundered money
So I had a look at this one entry in that link dump - I don't care enough to read them all so I chose the one with the sensationalist clickbait title.

Am I missing something here or are the "connections" here a chain several entries long between several different companies, the first of which is literally just "they have similar names"?

If these theories are somehow right, the number of crackpot theorists obsessing over the topic and making up connections are probably doing these evil child enthusiast rings a favor. They dilute any leads worth investigating with mountains of bullstuff that self perpetuate when dolts latch onto the idea and create more without actually reading any of it. I certainly don't care enough to try and sort any of that out, and the people who do seem to be morons who can't do it right.

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General Discussion / Re: Boss Battles
« on: November 30, 2016, 07:09:56 PM »
But "pwn" is so <2009...
Checks out.

God I had no idea I once swapped to the blue visor before removing that clunky armor and red pauldrons. Looks awful.

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Off Topic / Re: aight weebs suggest me some animes
« on: November 27, 2016, 02:45:17 AM »
Got nothing that meets all the OP criteria, but here's my recommendations anyway.

Hunter x Hunter. Long but pretty amazing. Kinda like DBZ or Naruto but doesn't waste your time.
Fate: Zero and Fate: UBW. Not sure which is the best order to watch those two in. Flip a coin I guess. Don't touch the Studio Deen one though.
Avatar TLA and LOK. Sue me.
Log Horizon. If anyone mentions Sword Art Online, you should immediately counter with this. Similar premise except not stuff.
Code Geass. Hits a ton of the same notes as Death Note but with giant robots, mind control powers, and an ending that's actually good.
RWBY. Sue me.

There are others, but those are the ones I'd recommend in a vacuum.

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General Discussion / Re: Boss Battles
« on: November 18, 2016, 08:50:15 AM »
oy vey, we demand reparations for the six million points spent changing songs that you've shoa'd
Most have already been diverted into funding a 30-foot solid gold statue of my throne. If you're lucky, you'll be viable for our random selection of a small handful of people who will be permitted to look at it, for up to ten minutes a day.

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