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« on: January 08, 2013, 12:17:32 AM »

Anyways, I'm not an engineer like I said, so these thoughts are useless anyways. However, one issue is the Ronald Reagan removed funding for alternative energy. Our energy solar and wind might have been far more efficient given an extra 20-30 years of development

It also would be a whole lot of money to fund.

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« on: January 08, 2013, 12:15:06 AM »

Geothermal, anyone?

Geothermal energy is actually pretty interesting. It's been used as heating in some skyscrapers, actually.

i'm sorry khoz but
engineers that have had years and years of advanced schooling are actually smarter than you

This is true but go ahead and explain anyway. I'll explain why it doesn't work that way you won't be frustrated.

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« on: January 08, 2013, 12:13:17 AM »

You can't just "double or triple" energy though.

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« on: January 08, 2013, 12:07:39 AM »

Two things. One, the law of conservation of energy. Energy cannot be created or destroyed. You simply can't make "free energy," even the most logical designs don't work. Two, you don't get that much return. Generating energy comes from the mechanical energy of the windmill, which means generating the energy would slow the turning speed to a stop.

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Off Topic / Re: Taxcut

« on: January 08, 2013, 12:02:00 AM »

Well, 1) I assume you don't live that near to them because they are an obnoxious distance from anything else in or near Los Angeles, except Casinos (Yes, I'm pretty sure I know exactly where that is) 2) They are supplementing the city of Los Angeles. It's loving huge. It needs all the power it can get. I always wondered why they were off though, because it seems like none of them are spinning.

I don't live in LA. You're right, I don't live right by them, but it's on the drive to the desert and I go there quite frequently. So, it's within an hour drive from me.

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« on: January 07, 2013, 11:58:08 PM »

Not to mention we can fund Wind power.

Wind is just as bad. I live near by a stuffLOAD of windmills, literally. Let me check my phone for a pic. Here. Look at that, that's a whole loving lot of windmills. That's just a small patch of them too, that's like 1/18th the size of the entire farm. It's just incredibly inefficient. They cost a good bit to produce anyway.

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« on: January 07, 2013, 11:49:23 PM »

I really don't think you're factoring in the lack of periodic costs that solar panels have.

Solar panels have maintenance costs too. But that's beside the point, do you know how large 48 million square feet is? It's implausible.

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« on: January 07, 2013, 11:46:38 PM »

frankly, that's not true.
first of all, we're currently developing flexible and paper-thin solar panels that generate electricity for 40 cents a watt. stuffty fossil fuels are being challenged more and more every day.
biofuels made from synthesized algae are another great option.

dude fixing our energy crCIA will eliminate foreign oil dependencies. no more wars to spend money and lives on, and no more foreign oil to buy.
better economy.

Well, first off the war in the middle east isn't entirely based on foreign oil. That's a pretty naive thing to say. That said, it's also pretty naive to say it's purely against terrorism. Regardless, the war we're fighting there is also to aid foreign nations so even if we solve our foreign oil dependency the war would not be over.

Second, what I said is true. Have you looked at the efficiency of solar panels lately? 1 square foot of solar panel ~= 10 watts. The average oil turbine runs at 480 megawatts, or 480,000,000 watts. That's 48,000,000 square feet of solar paneling. Also, solar panels only work during the day. :S

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« on: January 07, 2013, 11:37:54 PM »

It just doesn't seem like a hot issue to me. It seems more important to do things like, I don't know, repair our economy than worry about what type of energy we're using. Yes, it's a problem, and it shouldn't be ignored, but we clearly don't have enough money to go around as it is so it seems like what we do have should go to the more important interests of America.

Also; I understand that the war is largely based on energy, but it's possible to end the war without completely severing our ties to foreign energy.

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« on: January 07, 2013, 11:32:16 PM »

psst, hey guys, we could just stop fighting random ass wars over oil and start looking over alternative energy.

Actually this I kind of disagree with. I believe the war needs to end, yada yada, but by "alternative energy" you're more than likely talking about solar energy or some other kind of "clean" energy. At this current point in time, it's completely worthless. I don't mean to offend anyone with solar panels on their house, but they don't earn their keep. Converting a nation this dependent on oil to "alternative energy" would take a WHOLE LOT of money and we wouldn't be able to maintain the efficiency of oil until many developments have been made in these alternative energy fields.

Also; there's a buttload of oil under Alaska. Environmental protection groups are keeping it in the ground, but it would make oil a whole lot cheaper to get. To be honest I'm sick so I'm trying to avoid intense fighting, so I'm just gonna leave that fact there without really saying anything about it.

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« on: January 07, 2013, 11:28:34 PM »

a great many people would also feel more safe knowing that their money is far less-likely being sent to drug addicts to fund their addictions.

I don't know if you know how much a welfare check is each month, but I'll tell you this: it's below minimum wage. A minimum wage worker working full time would make 15 grand a year, so let's say welfare is 10 grand. Getting my prices from Silk Road, which, mind you, is very very cheap, that's approximately 37.7 grams of heroin. A high tolerance heroin user can get high off of maybe 1/3 of a dose, so that'd be 113 doses over an entire year. Street price for this heroin is actually more than double, but you can already see from those figures that someone addicted to heroin would not be able to support their addiction on welfare money alone.

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« on: January 07, 2013, 11:15:55 PM »

Honestly, the two-party system sucks balls because there are better candidates out there than the two imbeciles we got this time around. The sad things really are;
A. These candidates have 0 chance because they can't even appear in debates
B. People vote without knowing jack about the election, they make their decision in the booth

I'm so happy to see you. I'm literally the only person here with non-liberal economic views.

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« on: January 07, 2013, 11:10:16 PM »

What are these "useless" programs?

http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2009/10/50-examples-of-government-waste

Literally took a two second google.

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« on: January 07, 2013, 11:09:04 PM »

They still have at least $130,000 after taxes, which I'm sure many Chinese Workers would kill their neighbor for.

Life in China is also cheaper. Don't get me wrong, a huge part of it is still impoverished, but you can't compare the two because the average chinese worker would kill for $20k a year.

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« on: January 07, 2013, 11:06:20 PM »

Also I'm not trying to pick more of a fight than I already have, but someone making 200k a year qualifies for most of the highest tax brackets (they're something like the top 2-3%) so that person working their ass off from 8 to 6 would still be paying 30-40% tax in the scenario I provided.