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Clan Discussion / Re: DO YOU WANT TO MAKE YOUR OWN CLAN? READ THIS:

« on: March 27, 2009, 04:31:36 PM »

A success story, eh? Got any proof to back that up, buster?

Of course.

http://forum.blockland.us/index.php?topic=51867.0

Twelve members, and within the clan section it's 10th in both replies and views. We've had two successful clan builds that have spanned weekends.

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Drama / Re: Limpfittz: The beef thread.

« on: March 27, 2009, 04:29:18 PM »

Shall we mention your fit with Afkpuz and his nice castle?

I loved that build.

Someone took what I posted (which was almost word for word what he said about the Empire Tower) as if it were a serious comment, and the conversation was immediately diverted from there.

It was never meant to be a huge deal, it was meant to be a 'ha ha, just kidding bro' type comment.

And let the record state, about 5-6 posts after mine, I said 'yeah, he posted that in my thread... etc.' but the damage was already done by that guy that took it as a serious thing.

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Clan Discussion / Re: DO YOU WANT TO MAKE YOUR OWN CLAN? READ THIS:

« on: March 27, 2009, 04:26:24 PM »

Oh okay, so suddenly all of those art tutorials out there are void because

Art tutorials are kind of the same as what Limp did. While I, with the proper technical skills and a little practice, could copy a famous painting, that does not make me a good painter. I'd probably pick stuff up along the way that might improve me as a painter, but I do not become a good painter by copying someone else's style and work.

So, I guess the building point isn't as strong. While I think that building tutorials are good, it shouldn't have been conducted as it was. It should have been just tips for helping you develop your own style, how to branch out, and how to mentally collect your ideas. Brick placement is just part of the fight.

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Gallery / Re: The Sirrus style evolution.

« on: March 27, 2009, 04:22:14 PM »

You're a joke, you sir; are a joke.

See, this is where we're different. While we both feel the need to call out stuff, I don't believe I've personally insulted Limp so far.

Or you, for that matter.

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Drama / Re: Limpfittz: The beef thread.

« on: March 27, 2009, 04:20:35 PM »

I'm calling you out on your bullstuff and all you can do is say I stir stuff?

I think that trying to link the styles thread and this beef that I have with Limp was both far-fetched and not really needed. They didn't have anything to do with each other, when they were first posted at least.

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Drama / Re: Limpfittz: The beef thread.

« on: March 27, 2009, 04:11:51 PM »

Sirrus, you're a pompous douchebag and deflecting attention to me is evidence enough.

I see this is an attempt to deflect the fact that you're probably stirring up stuff.

What do you want to see in this, Ronin?

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Clan Discussion / Re: DO YOU WANT TO MAKE YOUR OWN CLAN? READ THIS:

« on: March 27, 2009, 04:10:24 PM »

I don't want everyone to be a maaster builder - I only want to help those who want help. The ones who don't want it, are not forced in to reading my topic :)

But it's convoluted you think you can teach people to have talent.

Up until a month ago, you didn't even have a server.

That is more or less correct. Fascinatingly, good hosting almost directly relates to how well we do as a clan. If I never got a good hoster, we never would've taken off and I wouldn't be fronting WBS as a success story, but it did, so I am.

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Gallery / Re: The Sirrus style evolution.

« on: March 27, 2009, 04:07:48 PM »

Why don't you read my post.

Giving a (mediocre) build a flashy title is really contrived.

A lot of the builds I don't think are mediocre, though.

And while sarcasm may be the lowest form of wit, wit isn't the lowest form of humor.

Sarcasm kind of has a lower-upper class thing going for it.

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Drama / Re: Limpfittz: The beef thread.

« on: March 27, 2009, 04:05:40 PM »

You have no idea what I said in that quote do you?

Edit: Ah yes, I think I remember something along the lines of...

-snips-

Do we need to take Mr. Monocle out of the box again? I think we do.

Very funny, actually. I missed Mr. Monocle.

Actually it does appear Sirrus is jealous after you read this.

Ronin, I'm going to have to call bull. I'm taking a risk in this, but I really think you're trying to stir up stuff because you like watching the chaos that ensues, I really do.

In reality, the two events had little to do with each other. I don't quite know why I made the style thread, and I'm not saying that to cover my ass.

While I'm jealous of Limp's positive community reception, I am not jealous of Limp himself. If I was, and I wanted to either be specifically malicious, I probably would've done the same thing but not in a constructive manner. I also would've made my own building tips thing and clan guideline. But I didn't.

I simply called bull on the two guides limp has put out. Maybe I overstepped a boundary in some of the personal attacks I've made on him, but I hold firm on calling him out on his two guides and the reactions he's receiving for them.

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Gallery / Re: The Sirrus style evolution.

« on: March 27, 2009, 03:55:38 PM »

Sirrus only called it sarcasm because he realized he isn't awesome and no one wants to emulate him.

Furthermore it is he that is trying to emulate Limpfittz.

First of all, it's sarcasm because that's a stupid thing to say, and it wasn't serious in the slightest.

Second of all, only the Neo-Surrealism and the first one in Neo-Conservative-Imperialism were completed in their entirety when Limp was of prominence.

And the Neo-Surrealism ones aren't even close to Limp's style.

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Gallery / Re: The Sirrus style evolution.

« on: March 27, 2009, 03:11:53 PM »

A satire onto yourself?

Not very good I'd say. It all looks the same and you demonstrate you like to use words you don't understand.

I understand the word sarcasm. I was pointing out that I was making a joke, since I can't put verbal inflection on words short of italics, bolding, and underlining.

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Clan Discussion / Re: RE:DO YOU WANT TO MAKE YOUR OWN CLAN? READ THIS:

« on: March 27, 2009, 02:59:42 PM »

...... omg..

For you guys that also said WTF:

http://forum.blockland.us/index.php?topic=63896.0

THAT is what I'm talking about.

When I clicked on this topic, your topic was directly below this one. Also, I think your topic is going to stay bumped longer than this one.

Very egotistical. Goes hand-in-hand with 'post this in every thread that doesn't meet these standards.'

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Drama / Re: Limpfittz: The beef thread.

« on: March 27, 2009, 01:06:52 PM »

This is madness.
I haven't done anything wrong at all, ever.

I'm calling it as I see it, and I'm not the only one who's seen it.

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Clan Discussion / Re: DO YOU WANT TO MAKE YOUR OWN CLAN? READ THIS:

« on: March 27, 2009, 12:10:16 PM »

There are some people out there who will, in fact, read some tips and think about them. You can't teach everyone how to build or make clans, but you can give them some advice along the way.

Turncoat

You're just so full of empty words Sirrus :P

Not really, actually.

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Clan Discussion / Re: DO YOU WANT TO MAKE YOUR OWN CLAN? READ THIS:

« on: March 27, 2009, 10:06:31 AM »

-Snip-

Okay, where do I begin...

With the two major guides you've written, you've made two terrible terrible mistakes. One, you can't teach people to build. Two, you can't teach people to make clans. Let's start with the latter first.

Clans aren't something that are comprised of good formatting. It's not a matter of following directions to a t, and it's definitely not a matter of having a good name (although that helps)

What clans are about is having a business model. While you're not actually making money, you need to have a plan for what's fresh about you. What's your standpoints. Members, size, clan structure, type of clan, clan builds, leaders, people. You can't teach someone to do that; they have to have a knack for it.

Secondly, let's go through my clan. I basically followed your formula (although, this was before you came back, I think) I had a decent name. Good banner. Good layout. I had lined up a few members prior to the clan starting and I took some time with it, both in the conceptual stages and the actual beginnings.

And let me just say, it was almost completely shot down at the very beginning.

You see, I was entering a playing field where everything was more or less stacked against me. USSR and MotE were sinking fast, and RotB was gone, so some of the grandeur of the clan section was out the window. There were so many building clans, and a lot of them were doing it better than me.

At first, I wasn't doing so hot. But I had one thing going for me, and I think this immediately set me ahead when it came to people joining, and that was something I've never seen in the same words as mine.

I eliminated the brick count, and most conservative requirements for being accepted.

Instead of the run-of-the-mill 2,000 bricks, I simply said 'Write a paragraph about yourself and why you want to join. Then make an app of any size. If it impresses me or shows potential, you're in.'

So there, I almost had my business model before I started to think about what I wanted to do with the clan.

So later on down the road, I realized to be a successful clan, I need to open up to the larger majority of people that still play Blockland; people with ID's over 6,000. I realized that in doing this, I was going to get more members, and some of them good people with great personalities and decent builders. You don't get anywhere with being snobbily exclusive, but at the other end of the spectrum, you don't get anywhere accepting people that app with the demo.

So I had my plan down, and Falcondude hosted several week clan builds. These were excellent in the life of the clan. Ten people at a time could come hang out with us, see our work, hang out with the WBS community and have a good time. We picked up so many members during those times that I need Ky's (falcondude) help to get them all down on our members list.

That doesn't mean that I won't have to purge them for inactivity later, but it gave people a clan to call home, a clan that was fun, made good builds, and was worth being in.

I'm going to bold this because it's the point I'm trying to convey in that wall of text.

You can't teach people to do that.

It's like most things that require talent like art or music or what have you. You can teach people the technical skills required, but you can't teach them to do it well or have a gift.

Okay, now onto building.

The same thing goes for here. You can't teach people to build good, and it's despicable that you teach them to be generic in a new way. Before we've had box houses, now if your egotistical manner is validated, we're going to have Limpfittz houses.

Is that really what you want to do?

You're not teaching people to build good. Building good implies the possibility of you developing your own style (see my style development thread). Again, with your building strategy thread, what you're really doing is just teaching people to build elements of your builds, and not develop their own.

Which kind of sickens me.

And worst of all, you seem to be doing it all with your name on it, in hopes people will like you more.