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Off Topic / Re: blockland: the community that killed the game
« on: January 14, 2023, 09:42:45 PM »
I seriously hope this isn't you sympathizing for Badspot, as if he was any better than the literal kids he was literally telling to kill themselves

How many other devs of popular indie games or ones that have a cult following have you seen have such a vocal disdain and hatred for their players, especially just because they were a furry or had legitimate complaints about how they handled their game?
"a decent sized moderation team"??? You mean Badspot who started to get lazy after appointing Ephialtes, who then later quit and was replaced by Rotondo who then also became inactive because he had his own game to work on? That's not what i would call a decently sized moderation team for how many users used to be active here 24/7 and then with how chaotic things got once the moderation started to die down after Ephi quit and it was mostly just Rotondo and occasionally a very selective Badspot for a while
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hwz7YN1AQmQ
Back then
...but since this era was when Badspot really started to slow up on moderating, especially since people would just buy a new BLID just to continue what they were doing, and eventually Rotondo was put into action
WHO DO YOU THINK ALLOWED THAT TO PROPOGATE?
WHO DO YOU THINK NEGLECTED TO DO THAT??????

WHAT FORUM HAVE YOU EXISTED ON THIS LAST DECADE?
i wasnt going to respond to him because i was in shock lol ty mr lego master

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Off Topic / Re: blockland: the community that killed the game
« on: January 13, 2023, 05:25:34 PM »
Weird I checked on the day you posted this, I never once thought of you as controlling.
(also i miss TA, and castle game)

But yes this forum was 100% a 4chan lite, I recall there being plenty of discussion between the two sites.
stronghold crusaders !!! 👐

and aw good cause I used to have such bad anxiety lol xD

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In the list of frequent names I see tossed around of perpetrators of grooming etc I never see see Ephis name thrown into the list despite knowing personally that he has done this to several users. I have pms from him myself of him that are Not Something A Moderator Of A Kids Game Should Be loving Sending .
oh wow I never knew about this, now I feel gross for giving him a spotlight in the op

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Off Topic / Re: blockland: the community that killed the game
« on: January 13, 2023, 04:46:13 PM »
the most notable moments from this forum come from the worst aspects of it and without them this place would likely be more dead than it already is

love you all tho <3
idk how I missed this. I hope I'm misinterpreting this and you're not saying it's ok these things happened because otherwise the game would be dead.... ?

yeah the game is most notable for it's horrors but that's not a good thing

pls clarify lol

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Off Topic / Re: blockland: the community that killed the game
« on: January 13, 2023, 04:01:00 PM »
youd think badspot would have been more proactive about all the kiddy diddlers, if for no other reason to cover his own ass, but i guess he never got in trouble so what do i know. incredibly irresponsible for him to make an internet lego game with 0 moderation like this lol it was basically a gold mine for weirdo child enthusiasts to prey on undersocialized autistic children. how hard could it have been to pay for some moderation staff.
might be some kind of SEO trick
tbh until it affects him I don't think he cares

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Off Topic / Re: blockland: the community that killed the game
« on: January 13, 2023, 02:51:58 PM »
I think a documentary type thing on not the forum itself but the forum as a tool for viewing the early internet, the need for moderation, and the role of online communities fulfilling the pseudo-familial role for people without one would be cool.

ladios wym? family values is censored?

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Off Topic / Re: blockland: the community that killed the game
« on: January 13, 2023, 04:18:19 AM »
posted this elsewhere and it pretty much sums up my experience. blockland and these forums were a big part of my social interaction in my earlier years when i was 10-13, since i was abused as a child and i had recently gotten put out of my house when i first started exploring these forums. for a while until i got better friends i had a really forgeted up view of how things worked because my every action had been scrutinized while the worst of the worst could seemingly get away with anything, and i wasn't allowed to criticize them or even be one of their targets (see the pie crust drama linked).
when i wasn't being actively harassed by people now in their mid 20's, i always was intrigued by how feral the drama board made people. rarely was it about anything of real note - you could be an active nuisance and have people argue for you if you were popular enough on the forums - people were after like, minor character flaws. were you a furry teenager? that's worth at least 75 pages. were you trans and didn't like being harassed for it? here's a decent thirty three. were you a child? half an hour comin up.
it's really depressing thinking that no one thought to openly speak out against anything that ever happened here, especially not the adults and more influencial users
Its crazy how many of us have similar stories. I guess it makes sense - if we were used to being treated better we would have left. Im sorry to hear about all of that that happened to you, Im saddened you werent taken seriously and that I contributed to the problem.

Idk if Im going to get banned for this topic or not, idk, and idk if we are even allowed to share emails on here - but if anyone has the time it would mean a lot if you could email me your story. Just some basic stuff, how long you played, what got you into the game, what your life was like at home, what kept you here, your experiences here good and bad, tell me about yourself and where you are now. Whatever you are comfortable with. Feel free to leave a contact. You can also do it anonymously or with a burner if you want. Maybe I can make something out of this.

My email is coltenBL [a][t] g[mail] [dotcom]

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Off Topic / Re: Forumers that are newsworthy
« on: January 13, 2023, 04:07:26 AM »
the one guy (his name is unimportant) shot up a school, so theres a legacy

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Off Topic / Re: blockland: the community that killed the game
« on: January 13, 2023, 03:52:46 AM »
Also, just to clarify because I predict this reframing into something different - I am not trying to discredit the many positive memories we all have here. I grew up with two abusive and manipulative parents, I had no neighbors to hangout with, my siblings and I were all raised differently and we never knew how to be siblings, and this game was where I had some of my only friends. Yes some of them were absolutely HORRIBLE people, but I also met some amazing ones and made some great memories.

Tails and I used to play Total Annihilation for HOURS and he never got annoyed at how controlling I was! TwenteFreak and me played so many games for so many hours lol - omg the amount of time I sank into Crusader Kings with him is crazy. I used to marry him off to my sister.. and again he never got annoyed at how finnicky I was. Ryuu was so formative to me coming out, even if he didnt know it. Trogtor and I used to talk for ever and ever! I hope he still remembers playing Terraria with me! I remember my parents stopped paying the internet and I used to hang a USB wifi dongle on an extension out my living room window just to get a few bars of my neighbors internet so I could play with him! Barnabas always made me feel included, Hollywood never made me feel like a weirdo, Pablo was a literal angel. I felt a lot less alone here!

So many cool people!!

But this place also was loving terrible.... gosh even in this post most of my good memories were outside of this game because tbh the more blocklanders in one place the worse it was

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Off Topic / Re: blockland: the community that killed the game
« on: January 13, 2023, 03:36:38 AM »
Someone--I don't know who--brought up this whole subject in a post I saw during one of my earlier sporadic logins to this forum, and I haven't really been able to get it out of my head since. This place was essentially a little self-contained Kiwi Farms (ironically, considering who would wind up hosting that site) with a key difference existing in that the vast majority of people here were literal children.

I wasn't even out of elementary school at the time that I made this account, and it's startling to realize just what I was exposed to through here and how much that has likely affected me. It's very sobering to come back and read stories e.g. Bisjac, Plastiware and realize that the rest of the people involved in that were close to the same age I was.

I think some people might make the argument that Badspot wasn't equipped or prepared to deal with moderating a community of children, but I think that even if that is true that he should have recognized that as the situation and he should have dealt with it accordingly. Simply put, if he wasn't prepared or interested in moderating his forum full of children intermingling with creeps and predators then he should have just closed it down back then.

As for Blockland's success, it is pretty remarkable that he managed to get a head start on Roblox and Minecraft by making a game with the same appeal and a passionate community (despite everything) and then let it go to waste. It even got a second chance when it released on Steam; I recall people here being worried about the game stagnating even before the Steam launch, and then that came and the playerbase briefly exploded basically overnight. And then there were no more substantial updates, and then the playerbase trickled down to nothing, and now we're here.

I don't know, maybe Badspot just wasn't interested, but it does seem like a waste of potential.
yeah the game never took off after it went on steam because the community was horrible to new people. I feel like the game tended to attract lonely people who ironically enough pushed away anything new. do you remember how many people used to just ban noobs or purposely make the game unfun for them :/

and omg that whole fear that steam support would (again the irony) destroy the sense of community? self fulfilling prophecy or what lol

I agree if he didn't want to put the work in (updates, moderation, creating a welcoming environment) he should've just shut it down or made it free and gave up.

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Off Topic / Re: blockland: the community that killed the game
« on: January 13, 2023, 02:49:22 AM »
yes it is sad, but at least we can still play the game and invite friends to partake in freebuilds/dm's like old times. gotta focus on what positives there are left
the game was never the problem - it's an excellent game, and nostalgia is great yea but there's very limited time left on the life of this forum/game/etc and I just needed to say what I said

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Off Topic / blockland: the community that killed the game
« on: January 13, 2023, 02:19:21 AM »
Otis was, as far as I remember, the first creep on the site who actively admitted he was into it. Like, no holds barred, we knew for a fact he lusted after little girls cause he talked about it all the time.

He got away with it because there was always plausible deniability that it was a bit and that he was just trolling. But as time went on and he said more and more, even if it was a bit he was eerily committed to it.

Being 14 and not really knowing anything, I always said nothing and just hand-waved it as "silly internet people being silly." To look back on it now, I only wish I had the convictions I do now as an adult then. Sure, it was an era where most of us would have just called me an SJW or whatever, but I dunno man, I'd rather be the brunt end of the joke on some dumb lego forum than let the groomers continue to operate on the site.

What I'm saying is, we should have bullied Bisjac and Otis (and whoever else) off this site for being creepy weirdos who like underage girls and maybe we wouldn't have normalized it so much that closeted creeps like Plastiware wouldn't have felt safe here so that they (and I don't know if Plasti actually did anything to anyone, he probably just had research which is bad enough) and others wouldn't have groomed the oh so many young and impressionable users who of course flocked to a lego forum.

I was always an older member, joined when I was in high school when a lot of you joined when you weren't even in middle school so I feel like I failed some of you who had to endure the grooming of the weirdos (I know I didn't, I'm saying in like a grand sense for not catching it sooner)

Really sit and digest the 4th paragraph.

It's interesting because I feel the same way often - I'm sure many of you older players do too, like a guilt or accountability for the amount of abuse that happened here? I'm not saying we aren't accountable, and a lot of us contributed or were apathetic, but I truly hope none of you ever feel shameful or like the fault falls heavily on you.

I came across that post earlier and it really hurt my heart.

We were obviously all children, but we were also children on an internet who's role in our lives was rapidly expanding into territories unknown, and yes I do give Badspot some sympathy for having to navigate that but the blame ultimately falls on him for the harm this community caused. He encouraged (look at how he talked to customers) people to be richards and tolerated child enthusiasts and groomers, bullying, loveual harassment, misogyny, racism, national socialist imagery (not surprised - just look at his twitter) private investigating etc.

Literally all he cared about was money and the idea of power (over children mind you).

There was never any attempt at hiring moderators or moderation in general outside of the rules which were judged VERY arbitrarily (as were permabans/unbans) and he made little to no effort at keeping out repeat abusers until it became clear that his the same toxicity that he festered in had projected onto his community and made it impossible to sell get into the game and then boom suddenly we get modera- NO wait that never happened, you just had to buy the game to post. I guess if it's the trolls or the gp at least youll know the trolls will keep paying.

He had people who were so passionate about this game churning out content, hell Ephialtes and then ran an entire dedicated server rental service and created an entire client to do what Badspot was too uninspired to do, and he managed to drive them away by being a gigantic starfish.

Badspot created a fairly successful game in a time when there weren't a billion other lego or even building or even online indie games out there, and yet he went nowhere. Why? Because he is not a good or nice person, and that is why his community was known for being not good, for being not nice, and it's why this game died when it did and it's why over a decade later he has 600 followers on twitter. It's why he still mentions almost 20 years later that he "made a game once."

I don't blame any of you for how this forum operated, but Badspot I do blame you for the traumatization of dozens of children.

This forum is, and I don't mean this as a compliment, a monument to what could've been.






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if anyone has the time it would mean a lot if you could email me your story. Just some basic stuff, how long you played, what got you into the game, what your life was like at home, what kept you here, your experiences here good and bad, tell me about yourself and where you are now. Whatever you are comfortable with. Feel free to leave a contact. You can also do it anonymously or with a burner if you want. Maybe I can make something out of this.

My email is coltenBL [a][t] g[mail] [dotcom]

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Off Topic / Re: oh em gee it's my bdayyy
« on: January 11, 2023, 09:35:29 PM »
thanks yall!! it was a fun night!!! got drunk and had no hangover so mission accomplished !! friend started being wild at the end tho, arguing with everyone, low frequency behaviour

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Off Topic / Re: oh em gee it's my bdayyy
« on: January 06, 2023, 05:50:09 PM »
>28
>no adopted kids
>no husband
>no house
 :cookieMonster:
now this one....✊😔🏳️‍🌈

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Off Topic / Re: oh em gee it's my bdayyy
« on: January 06, 2023, 05:48:56 PM »
>28
>no kids
>no wife
>no house
 :cookieMonster: :cookie:
hunny I'm GAY!

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Off Topic / oh em gee it's my bdayyy
« on: January 06, 2023, 05:35:09 PM »
28 crack the forget up noooooo!!!!

I joined this forum when I was 12 years old - had no friends and felt a lot less alone here (for better or for worse lol) BUT it's been great to see you all grow and (most of you) become mature adults!!

tonight I will be getting drunk and hopefully kissing strangers !! buy me a drink if you're a Philly local

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