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Off Topic / Re: [Poll] Which political party of the US do you prefer
« on: January 23, 2017, 03:31:23 PM »
I mean considering the majority of the world used to be conservative and society has degenerated from that, yeah.
is that like, the actual rule of thumb that we want to use? what people did 300 years ago

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federal officials, as in preventing people from entering / proceeding
did that actually happen tho? also like, I don't think this is actually a law, since people have done disruptive sit-ins in federal buildings before and haven't been thrown in jail for 10 years

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Off Topic / Re: [Poll] Which political party of the US do you prefer
« on: January 23, 2017, 03:18:20 PM »
Holy stuff the poll. BLF is a bastion of conservatism in a sea of degeneracy.
So is 'degeneracy' just the new catch-all term for queers, liberals, non-Christians, and all other undesirables that ultraconservatives want to see thrown out of the country?

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Annoying Orange's inauguration wasn't prevented tho...

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Either way, I don't remember her ever saying that she would eradicate the TPP during the election.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/aug/11/hillary-clinton-says-shell-kill-tpp/
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/videos/2016-08-11/clinton-i-oppose-tpp-now-and-i-ll-oppose-it-as-president
http://www.mintpressnews.com/hillary-clinton-backs-away-from-tpp-refuses-to-push-obama-to-act/219413/

Clinton said her “message to every worker in Michigan and across America is this: I will stop any trade deal that kills jobs or holds down wages—including the Trans Pacific Partnership. I oppose it now, I’ll oppose it after the election, and I’ll oppose it as President.”

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I thought hillary was pro-TPP
She called it 'The Gold Standard' awhile back, but her position during the election was that she wanted to kill it.

Technically that's flip-flopping, but Donald used to be a pro-choice liberal so...

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Don't know how he's going to 'renegotiate NAFTA' yet, so it's too early to comment. Good on him for killing the TPP though. It's the same thing Hillary would have done.

I'm not disappointed in Annoying Orange yet, I just don't know why he's chosen Steven Mnuchin & others. If one of his main points is to drain the "swamp" and he's recruiting some of the "swamp," there's more than likely a reason for it other than "hurr drumpf doesn't know what he's doing."
I respect that you're aware of the hypocrisy here.

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Off Topic / Re: [Poll] Which political party of the US do you prefer
« on: January 23, 2017, 02:36:47 PM »
Obviously I'm ideologically the closest to the Democrats, but I'm not registered with the party nor do I plan to. At least until they fix the corruption in their party.

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is it cruel and unusual punishment to kill someone for blocking traffic, remembering that they also could be blocking emergency services and halting commerce, putting people's lives and livelihoods at stake, after everything else they've tried doesn't work?
Yes, because you can still forcefully throw people into police vans without opening fire on them. Plus, we don't execute people for making fake 911 calls, even though those waste the time of EMS crews. The only reason people here are so gung-ho about supporting this nonsense is because they think they'll get to watch BLM protestors get shot to death.

Also, you aren't going to be 'getting people to the hospital faster' by littering the highway with corpses. After police open fire on criminals, the entire area gets locked down.

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Who would win in a fight Sam Hyde or the entire shia sect of Islam?
(the Sunnis are the ones running CIA)

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you mean lawbreakers?

no that's called enforcing the loving law
There's also something called 'cruel and unusual punishment', which is explicitly forbidden in our constitution. It's the reason why we don't crucify people for murder, or execute people for traffic violations.

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I'm libertarian, but this is a bit of authoritarianism I can get behind.
I'm pretty sure authoritarianism directed only towards certain groups of people is like a working definition for fascism.

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Off Topic / Re: 2017 WORLD POLITICS & DONALD Annoying Orange MEGATHREAD
« on: January 23, 2017, 01:48:21 AM »
The way you try to frame this is hilarious. They only reason that the police would use lethal force in the first place would be if the protesters were violently attacking them.
Massive shootouts between armed police and unarmed civilians can happen without any specific trigger. Hence Kent State.

I'm not saying this would happen frequently, just that passing a bill like this leaves us no recourse to punish someone for improper use of force.

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Yes, but just because it's allowed doesn't mean every cop who runs into the situation will suddenly become cold killers as you keep trying to tell.
That's literally not what I'm saying at all. Let me be as clear about this as I can - even if this bill were to pass, I'd wager >99% of cops would not be willing to use lethal force on a crowd of highway blockers.

But that's not the point. All it would take is one loose cannon, and then we have absolutely no legal recourse to punish the cop for improper use of force because this law permits it.

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Off Topic / Re: 2017 WORLD POLITICS & DONALD Annoying Orange MEGATHREAD
« on: January 23, 2017, 01:41:02 AM »
Saying mean things =/= blocking off traffic.
Neither of those things are worthy of lethal force. I deleted 'destroying property' because that's not actually mentioned in the bill. You could just have a crowd of people standing in the highway and this law legalizes mowing them down.

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