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Off Topic / Re: are u gonna miss obama
« on: January 12, 2017, 11:53:48 PM »
HRC and Jewma Abedin hired a bunch of young "bright" reporters and other libcuck losers and told them to go get the polls.  So the cronies went to every nook and cranny (or as they like to call it, cities and left leaning places (i.e. universities and colleges)) and asked everyone in the area (other young people and liberals) who they were voting for.  This, of course, led them to believe that THE GENERAL POPULATION was heavily in favor if Hillary Clinton.  Kapische?
That's uh, not how polls work. I'm sure HRC did some of her own polling, but the numbers reported on websites like 538 and RCP are all independent pollsters (i.e., unaffiliated with either candidate).

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Off Topic / Re: 2017 WORLD POLITICS & DONALD Annoying Orange MEGATHREAD
« on: January 12, 2017, 08:39:29 PM »
So scientific. I'll bet thats what people did when they voted on Brexit and in the US election as well.
I'm confused now. You're saying that the polls are reliable, but Brexit and the US election were falsely predicted because of polling failures. Isn't that a contradiction?

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Off Topic / Re: 2017 WORLD POLITICS & DONALD Annoying Orange MEGATHREAD
« on: January 12, 2017, 07:17:15 PM »
Theres been polls (no pun intended) on the board and the majority are National Socialists.
It's not scientific though. If we had a poll with 'national socialist' as an option, people would pick it here as a joke. It would probably be the #1 option.

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Off Topic / Re: 2017 WORLD POLITICS & DONALD Annoying Orange MEGATHREAD
« on: January 12, 2017, 07:07:27 PM »
You do realize that /pol/ is practically a neo national socialist board right?
There's definitely neo-national socialists and crazies on /pol/, but I'd say that the majority of posts on /pol/ are the same kind of ironic Deus Vult stuff that has been flooding the BLF the last few months. Not a huge difference.

The posts on here are not nearly as overtly offensive, but they come from the same vein of humor.

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Off Topic / Re: 2017 WORLD POLITICS & DONALD Annoying Orange MEGATHREAD
« on: January 12, 2017, 02:05:57 PM »
I've been around for a while and honestly, Seventh's tempermant has noticably changed since he's been around. He honestly never used to get political until this controversial election threw everything head over heels.
I think that applies to everyone though. People start caring a lot more about politics during the general election, and this was my first election where I actually got to vote. Obviously I post way more about politics than I did two years ago, but politics is a lot more relevant right now.

Not everyone on the forums gets political, but not everyone votes either. For that reason, I try to keep the political stuff in the political threads. Likewise, there's plenty of people who have starkly different political views than me, but I still consider them friends and intelligent people.

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Off Topic / Re: 2017 WORLD POLITICS & DONALD Annoying Orange MEGATHREAD
« on: January 12, 2017, 03:26:50 AM »
[im g]http://i.imgur.com/3YsWilI.jpg[/img]
I was impressed w/ the craftsmanship until I realized you only added the profile picture.

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Off Topic / Re: 2017 WORLD POLITICS & DONALD Annoying Orange MEGATHREAD
« on: January 12, 2017, 12:21:03 AM »
yeah, and #Pizzagate is just some stupid 4chan conspiracy

consistency is not part of some people's vocabulary I see
For the record, there's absolutely no way this Annoying Orange bed-pissing thing is real. My bullstuff-filter is apolitical.

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Off Topic / Re: is the blf physically fit
« on: January 12, 2017, 12:19:50 AM »
lol definitely not

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Off Topic / Re: are u gonna miss obama
« on: January 12, 2017, 12:19:24 AM »
we all will, trust me

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which one did you pick? how will life be from now on, after realizing that you became the one you chose?
don't carium about being barium

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Off Topic / Re: 2017 WORLD POLITICS & DONALD Annoying Orange MEGATHREAD
« on: January 11, 2017, 08:56:59 PM »
But again, we would have to raise taxes to do so. The top marginal income tax rate in countries in which similar social programs have been implemented can be as much as 60%, not including VAT, estate taxes in Denmark, 42% tax on capital gains, etc.
That's correlation and not causation. Countries that have 'similar social programs' are basically just rich Scandinavian countries that have hugely high tax-rates that pay for expensive social programs all across the board. We do not have to raise the highest marginal tax rate by 20 points to pay for universal health care.

These ludicrous tax rates are what they have to charge to subsidize their social probrams while spending very little on defense. Seeing as all Scandinavian countries with the exception of Norway spend next to nothing on defense, they instead rely largely on the US and NATO to defend them should they be threatened. We can't just stop paying our defense budget, so odds are we would pay similar rates or higher should we adopt similar programs.
This is a slippery-slope that does not describe reality. There are insurmountable differences between the United States and Sweden that prevent us from becoming just like them.  

Plus like, defense spending is relative. Sweden isn't 'gaming the system'. For instance, China spends ~2% of its GDP on defense, while Sweden spends 1.1%. The actual amount spent is much different, but the contexts of both nations make it seem a lot more reasonable.

The US government also can't even run the VA properly, so what leads you to believe that running a healthcare system that exponentially greater in scale would be manageable for them?
Or Venezuela, they're a good example as well.
Again, I don't think you actually know what ACA does. ACA does not run hospitals, it doesn't employ doctors, and it doesn't have any impact on how privately-run hospitals work. The problems with the VA hospitals are completely irrelevant because the ACA doesn't regulate hospitals.

Also, why are you bringing up Venezuela? Their economic crCIA is 100% because of plummeting oil prices. There is not a single economist out there who will credit universal healthcare as the cause.

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Off Topic / Re: 2017 WORLD POLITICS & DONALD Annoying Orange MEGATHREAD
« on: January 11, 2017, 01:38:11 AM »
so we will force the doctor, who has invested 200k and many years of their time to learn medicine, to provide care for free, against their will, sounds reasonable /s
what the forget are you talking about? that's not how medical insurance works at all

countries with free healthcare offer a single-payer system that is subsidized by the government and funded by tax money. the doctors are paid no more or no less than they would in a normal economy. the only part of the economy that actually becomes publicly owned is the part that pays out money for the healthcare. all the doctors and pharmaceutical companies are still 100% private.

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Off Topic / Re: 2017 WORLD POLITICS & DONALD Annoying Orange MEGATHREAD
« on: January 10, 2017, 09:45:36 PM »
yes
Problem solved. Pack it all up everybody.

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Off Topic / Re: 2017 WORLD POLITICS & DONALD Annoying Orange MEGATHREAD
« on: January 10, 2017, 09:41:53 PM »
no
So what's the solution? Do we tack on a questionnaire about your values and personal beliefs?

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Off Topic / Re: 2017 WORLD POLITICS & DONALD Annoying Orange MEGATHREAD
« on: January 10, 2017, 09:38:38 PM »
Not a single person coming from a 3rd world Islamic country has any bad values? What?
As far as I know, we don't usually investigate someone's 'values' during the normal immigration process. Is it okay for people with bad values from the UK to immigrate here?

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