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Off Topic / Re: 13 year old african-american shot in the USA
« on: September 17, 2016, 10:06:19 PM »
Focusing on the present seems like a better use of time. We already learned all we need from the past, there is nothing left to learn.
That's literally just a convenient excuse so that you can ignore the issues at hand. Current problems result from past history, regardless of how easy it is to just blame it on rap music.

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Off Topic / Re: 13 year old african-american shot in the USA
« on: September 17, 2016, 10:03:28 PM »
If anything, slavery is still going on in Africa 2016. Why aren't you in Africa right now fighting for their freedom? Or do you ignore real issues and continue to bitch about stuff that isn't relevant anymore?
So, Americans should go to a country where they will be literally killed by insurgent groups for trying to enact change, but they shouldn't speak out in a country where they can actually vote and democratically solve problems in our society?

Like, this is just me, but option 2 sounds way more effective.

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Off Topic / Re: 13 year old african-american shot in the USA
« on: September 17, 2016, 10:00:30 PM »
It's really the culture the forgets up black people. They are encouraged to be thugs because that's whats cool. Most of their idles and role models encourage it (rappers making songs about being a Gangster and about doing narcotics). Treating black people like victims (like BLM demands) makes it worse because it takes away personal responsibility.
Crime and narcotics abuse predates gangster rap tho. How do you explain that?

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Off Topic / Re: 13 year old african-american shot in the USA
« on: September 17, 2016, 09:58:04 PM »
What is 200 years when Africans have been doing it themselves for near a couple thousand?
which is going to have a much bigger impact on your current situation in life: Your great-great-great-great-great grandfather being a slave, or your dad being a slave?

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Off Topic / Re: 13 year old african-american shot in the USA
« on: September 17, 2016, 09:54:48 PM »
America never payed the black race for the atrocities they committed.
I think restitution is a terrible idea. It'll be a pittance, and it won't fix any of the long-term problems. Plus, after it's paid, it'll justify every bit of tribal stuff our government does in the future.

"Oh, we already paid the fee. Can't complain anymore."

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Off Topic / Re: once again I destroyed my PC
« on: September 17, 2016, 09:32:38 PM »
spongebob has a full-time job as a frycook and owns a house, he is obviously not 10 OR 11
idk man. in some episodes he's definitely doing adult stuff (working, buying groceries, toppling dictators), but in others he's doing kid stuff (going to glove world, singing songs with peanuts, and seeking medical care at weenie hut general). there's no consensus here

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Off Topic / Re: 13 year old african-american shot in the USA
« on: September 17, 2016, 09:28:34 PM »
No. There are more crime statistics on black people because black people are caught more.
Eh, this is shaky. Black people are more impoverished and they live in dense cities where crime (especially gang and drug-related crime) occurs more often. Black people definitely commit more crimes (caught or uncaught) than white people, proportionately speaking. It's just not because of their race, it's because of factors that disproportionately affect black people in our society.

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Off Topic / Re: 13 year old african-american shot in the USA
« on: September 17, 2016, 09:25:58 PM »
I wonder why black people are profiled more than white people.
Subtract the gun from the second picture and it is literally just people in hoodies.

There is a gun pointing at the camera in the second picture.
Well, no stuff. But if someone was pointing a gun at me, I'd call the cops regardless of their race. Doesn't seem like a fair comparison to me.

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Off Topic / Re: 13 year old african-american shot in the USA
« on: September 17, 2016, 09:13:10 PM »
If we never accepted slaves in the first place 13% of the population in America today would be non existent.
You can put a positive spin on absolutely any major tragedy in history. Doesn't mean it's justified.

They are the only race in the world that would never be able to catch up technology wise if it weren't for white people.
I'd argue that lots of African countries would have caught up at a similar rate to European countries had they not been colonized after the end of the industrial revolution. Equitable countries without racial disparities don't really form when foreigners come in and completely take over your government. Likewise, when the upper-crust of those countries leave and create a power-vacuum, you end up with power struggles and civil wars and a whole bunch of problems that hurt economic growth even more. Not to mention the colonial borders created by Europeans failed to take ethnic and cultural borders into account, which has created tons of ethnic conflicts that are extremely similar to the ones currently occurring in the Middle East.

And no, it's not because white people are better. There used to be huge, powerful African empires, and the Arabs used to be the source of humanity's greatest mathematical discoveries. But put both those regions through a century of colonization and you end up with the current situation, where loads of countries in Africa and the Middle East are violent hell-holes.

So if black people have any issues about how their ancestors were treated in the past, before their lifetime then maybe they should go back to africa.
So in summary, "If you don't like how white-government has forgeted up the place where you currently live, please move somewhere else, where white-government has also forgeted up that place too."

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Off Topic / Re: 13 year old african-american shot in the USA
« on: September 17, 2016, 08:55:30 PM »
Wrong and wrong.

Slavery in africa started around 1,400 to 1,500 and still continues today. It did end in africa in only certain parts of africa in 1800 which was thanks to the white man!
Again, black people are not a monolith. The current situation in the United States has so much more to do with slavery, reconstruction-era legislation, and the current War on Drugs than anything that happened in Africa 500 years ago.

Let me put it this way, which is going to have a much bigger impact on your current situation in life: Your great-great-great-great-great grandfather being a slave, or your dad being a slave?

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You cant really trust poll sites to show who's going to win.
I think Cenk Uygur, as much as I dislike him as a person gave some good points in this video. I'm sort of thinking he's right in his prediction but of course I really hope not.
So like, you can't trust polls that actually produce a stratified sample of voters, but you can trust some guy with a Youtube account making a prediction without seeing any of the current trends or statistics?

Expert opinion is pretty much the bottom-tier of quality when it comes to data science.

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Off Topic / Re: 13 year old african-american shot in the USA
« on: September 17, 2016, 08:42:39 PM »
The Chinese were slaves yet they're doing better than white people
I'm not sure whether you're talking about slavery in China or Chinese labor in the US, but the /vast/ majority of Chinese people in the US right now are not the descendants of railway workers. If you recall, the government implemented the Chinese Exclusion Act in the late 19th century, which cut Chinese immigration immensely and permanently stalled the population.

Chances are, if you look at the Chinese people in the US who are doing better financially than whites, they are first-generation immigrants who were eligible for work visas because they are both wealthy and well-educated. And essentially none of them are descendants of Chinese laborers in the US.

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Off Topic / Re: 13 year old african-american shot in the USA
« on: September 17, 2016, 08:36:26 PM »
You do know it was black slave owners that sold black slaves to white people, right?
Yeah, and so? If we're keeping tabs here, that was one generation of American black people screwed over by other black people. The following generations were screwed over by American whites.

Don't even pull the slave card. It was their own fault.
This is literally the most garbage reasoning ever.

"Hey, my ancestors were slaves, so that explains some of the bad stuff that happened in my family"

"Well, you know, that's actually your fault."

"What?! Why?"

"Well, you're black, and your ancestors were originally sold as slaves by other black people, therefore you are responsible for enslaving your own ancestors."

"So you're saying I enslaved myself? How does that make any sense?"

"Lol idk read it on breitbart"

Also like, black people are not a monolith. You do not get to pin the blame all on culture just because not /all/ oppression of minorities in the US predates to white people.

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Off Topic / Re: 13 year old african-american shot in the USA
« on: September 17, 2016, 08:20:44 PM »
I blame their parents because it's their parents whom haven't changed and they are teaching their kids wrong ideals.

Latin and african urban culture was known as "gansta" culture which made them look like thugs in the process.
Cycles of violence and poverty are way more complicated than 'their parents are teaching them to commit crimes'.

So it's not our fault we white people avoid black people and latino people because they made themselves out to be thugs.
The irony here is that the disproportionate amount of crime committed by black people can be directly tied to systems created by white people. Slavery, Jim Crow laws, and the War on Drugs were all white people.

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Off Topic / Re: 13 year old african-american shot in the USA
« on: September 17, 2016, 08:12:55 PM »
If black people make up the minority in your community and 90% of them are the ones causing the crimes then statistically speaking you're safer profiling and or avoiding all black people in that community then.
Correct, but you're also creating a self-fulfilling prophecy where every new generation of black and hispanic kids feels like they're being treated as criminals from birth.

Police are competent enough that they can rely on other factors besides race when deciding who to pull over/accost on the street.

There is actually a culture on avoiding black people because of all the absolute crimes they commit. When you see a black guy about to cross your path on the sidewalk, walk across the street.
That culture is generally referred to as 'racism'.

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