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Gallery / Re: Diggy's Metropolis Server
« on: July 26, 2011, 10:04:51 PM »
I'm so sorry, I just can't wait now. :(
I'm just kidding bro, stupidity isn't a contagious condition.

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Gallery / Re: Diggy's Metropolis Server
« on: July 26, 2011, 09:54:18 PM »
This is what I though, from that quote:
-le snip-
Really?  I just thought of the love scenes.

Cool, any estimated time from this point that Diggy's will be up?

Not a clue.  Please stop asking or you'll end up like Mistrox.

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Gallery / Re: Diggy's Metropolis Server
« on: July 26, 2011, 09:44:28 PM »
I think we might just go utopian socialist on you forgeters and regulate shop output.

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Gallery / Re: Diggy's Metropolis Server
« on: July 26, 2011, 09:40:38 PM »
Is hamster going to be admin? Please say no.
Oh god, haha.  You guys are idiots, I love you.

Yeah, truly is. :(

What's with the shape anyway, Nili.
It does have a third section behind it, not shown in the picture.  It's not too bad in person.  As you know, we usually end up re-doing most of the public buildings later on anyway.

My guess would be Kalphiter's dedicated hosting service.
I can't think of any expression that would completely embody my reaction to seeing this, but know that it's along the lines of "are you daft?"  Kalphiter would never host for Diggy.  Edit: Or at least, if not the other way around.

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Gallery / Re: Diggy's Metropolis Server
« on: July 26, 2011, 06:22:43 PM »
Oh hey, Austrian Mango Lizard.
I'll probably be back for a little while until I either get sick of dealing with idiots again or I get swamped with tons of pusillanimous individual work in college.  Whichever comes first.

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Gallery / Re: Diggy's Metropolis Server
« on: July 26, 2011, 05:49:18 PM »
why can't you say anything useful for once? we already knew that

Why are you all so pessimistic?
Welcome to official duty.  Leave your sentimentality at the door.



On a side note, the F-truck is useless anyway.  Its cornering sucks and the people who use it most usually fill the "not-a-firefighter going on a vehicle kill spree" demographic.

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Add-Ons / Re: BuildBot: Load Saves without Admin - Get ready for V2!
« on: July 26, 2011, 05:45:33 PM »
Seriously, building in general in blockland is ultra-abusive.  That is why admins are important in servers.  Just because people have a new way to build does not mean the admins are unable to clear their bricks and ban them.  Events are much more abusive than BuildBot.
Events are easily regulated.  And yeah, building can be abusive when users are enabled to use it in such a way that clicking a button takes full advantage of its abusive potential.  From the standpoint of dedicated servers, admins aren't always online.  It's not so much a matter of admins being lazy, but just another problem they'll now have to look out for.

If someone made a script that allowed clients to, say, rapidly fire a weapon, would you decry its abuse factor as a consequence of projectiles?  And rapidfire scripts can be prevented with robust weapon scripting; buildbot is a different matter entirely.  And while it's true that rapidfire scripts can be useful while building or copying events, it's even more true that rapidfire scripts are more often (and easily so) abused in DMs and such.  Thus, its abusive potential outweighs the benefit and you have something that is wholly abusive.

You could even go as far as to say that the duplicator is abusive, but that can not only be regulated but is limited by trust.  Once again, buildbot goes further than this.

My point here is that releasing something this abusive to the general community has nasty drawbacks.  If, like the redo add-on, this were server-sided, there would be no issues with abuse.

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Gallery / Re: Diggy's Metropolis Server
« on: July 26, 2011, 05:31:24 PM »
I don't really like the bank :/
Well that's just too bad, now, isn't it?

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Gallery / Re: Diggy's Metropolis Server
« on: July 26, 2011, 03:27:24 PM »
Baw, the labor board isn't even done yet.

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Add-Ons / Re: BuildBot: Load Saves without Admin - Get ready for V2!
« on: July 26, 2011, 03:26:40 PM »
lol, like 10 of the 12 pages are about that.

There is no real way to detect if someone is using BuildBot.
Try to write a server side code so people can only toggle their lights by typing '/light' into the chat.
How will you prevent people from just pressing the light key on their keyboard?  How will the server tell the difference since both methods tell the server exactly the same information?
The same problem exists with people trying to stop BuildBot.
So really the only practical way of preventing abuse from it would to have a server build trust mod running?  Most certainly a "why the forget would you release this" situation.
inb4latetotheparty

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Gallery / Re: Diggy's Metropolis Server
« on: July 26, 2011, 12:48:54 PM »
Just so you guys are aware, the preview image on the front page isn't the actual server image anymore.  So don't think we're not getting stuff done.

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Add-Ons / Re: BuildBot: Load Saves without Admin - Get ready for V2!
« on: July 26, 2011, 09:27:52 AM »
I haven't seen anything in the FAQ, so I'll just ask now since reading through 12 pages is too bothersome.  Do you have any plans for server-side regulation of the mod?  Yeah it's a great add-on, etc, etc, but you know the potential abusiveness of it, and you know that it's not "just as abusive as macros", but even more enabling for clients to spam servers with. 

That said, some server version of this add-on that would cap the number of bricks that clients can load at once, whether or not they can (in v2) copy bricks that aren't their own, and so on, seems like it would be in order.

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Gallery / Re: Diggy's Metropolis Server
« on: July 25, 2011, 04:50:48 PM »
Yep, i saw it.  As for getting rid/compacting the common sense rules, a disclaimer should be put in place instead.  That means we shouldn't have to deal with stupid stuff such as complaints about getting scammed and what not.
That's what I meant, yes.

I remember when I charged Shard the Owl 7k for a clean record. Although it was already clean I kept the money. Does that count as being scammed or being a dumbass?
If someone paid you to clean their already clean record, that's just them being a dumbass.  Scamming in the server's case is pretty much anything that offers a service/item for money and then doesn't give that service/item.  Technically, Shard paid you to have a clean record, and when it was all said and done, his record was clean.

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Gallery / Re: Diggy's Metropolis Server
« on: July 25, 2011, 10:25:31 AM »

Ehm, it was never dead :O.. ..  it was sleeping :D

          ^____________________^
No, it was dead.


Yea, we need to review a few.  Also, we possibly need to add a few more depending on the current ones we have.  (Building, common sense rule, etc)
There's a new bazaar area that we should lay down regulations for, such as height and purpose of buildings there, and we could get rid of those common sense rules and just compact it into some disclaimer about admins being better than normal players, quit yer whinin, etc, etc.

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Gallery / Re: Diggy's Metropolis Server
« on: July 24, 2011, 10:45:51 PM »
Last time I checked, only admins could load bricks. And last time I checked, you weren't admin.
He's aiding in building some of the necessary public buildings.

And Swat, we'll keep the building rules as they are, but should probably review other ones and just make it so the rules are easier to follow.

you're an idiot.
Slow your roll, man.  Only one admin on this server can use such unreasoned brutishness.  Excuse my tone.  I'm obliged to feign as giving a stuff.

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