Author Topic: Melanie's Marvelous Measles (It's a real book)  (Read 1081 times)

I'm not going to take a side on either matter here mainly because none of it concerns me (I did get the MMR before my mom went on temporary hiatus), but I have a legit question:

If the vaccine is as reliable as scientists and experts claim, then anyone who has gotten the vaccine will very likely not get measles, mumps, or rubella. But if the anti-vaccinating people decide not to get it, they'll just be spreading it around themselves and their group. If this is the case, why do the pro-vaccine people even care if they don't get it?

This isn't me trying to defiant. I'm literally curious.
Because not everyone can get vaccines, and you can't get vaccinated with MMR until you're 12 months old. People who CAN get vaccinated not getting it defeats herd immunity, which is why before when you didn't have the vaccine you still didn't have to worry about getting the diseases since everyone around you has the vaccine, making it incredibly difficult for it to spread. It makes it much easier for the disease to spread not only to people who willingly didn't get their kids vaccinated, but also to people who can't get it for any number of reasons. This is demonstrated perfectly by the recent measles outbreak, which has already infected not only anti-vaxxers, but also innocent children who haven't been vaccinated yet and people who haven't been able to get it due to a weakened immune system.

wasted hospital resources and it's generally bad for your mental health to see people dying of an epidemic, however small the epidemic may be
Also this

A vaccinated person still CAN get the measles, though. It is not 100% effective. What the anti-vaxxers and their filthy measles children are doing is making it a possibility that an innocent, vaccinated person can get the measles because they've been exposed to one of said filthy measles children, and that is not OK.
And this too

I'm not going to take a side on either matter here mainly because none of it concerns me (I did get the MMR before my mom went on temporary hiatus), but I have a legit question:

If the vaccine is as reliable as scientists and experts claim, then anyone who has gotten the vaccine will very likely not get measles, mumps, or rubella. But if the anti-vaccinating people decide not to get it, they'll just be spreading it around themselves and their group. If this is the case, why do the pro-vaccine people even care if they don't get it?

This isn't me trying to defiant. I'm literally curious.
A vaccinated person still CAN get the measles, though. It is not 100% effective. What the anti-vaxxers and their filthy measles children are doing is making it a possibility that an innocent, vaccinated person can get the measles because they've been exposed to one of said filthy measles children, and that is not OK.

also we dont want people dying

I'm not going to take a side on either matter here mainly because none of it concerns me (I did get the MMR before my mom went on temporary hiatus), but I have a legit question:

If the vaccine is as reliable as scientists and experts claim, then anyone who has gotten the vaccine will very likely not get measles, mumps, or rubella. But if the anti-vaccinating people decide not to get it, they'll just be spreading it around themselves and their group. If this is the case, why do the pro-vaccine people even care if they don't get it?

This isn't me trying to defiant. I'm literally curious.
One, as Juncoph said, those people will want be a cost on the system, should they get sick.
That's both treating them during their infection, but also caring for any lingering effects, such as blindness, or brain damage.

Two, there are people who are unable to recieve the MMR vaccine. They may have autoimmune diseases of their own, or have other issues.
These people rely on Herd Immunity. This is when the majority of the population is immune, so the disease doesn't prosper and spread, so they don't catch it.
When there is a large population of people who don't have the vaccine, they are at risk of getting the disease. And they can spread it on to people who CAN'T have the vaccine, even if they wanted it. They put other people at risk, and those they put at risk are the ones most likely to suffer the worst symptoms, or even death.

Three, young babies can't have the vaccine until at a certain age. Until they can have the vaccine themselves they are reliant upon Herd Immunity. The moment a population of un-vaccinated people arrive, their herd immunity is compromised.

Four, it's not ideal to let people risk themselves dying, even if they are happy to. Consider it as the same reason why we insist people wear seatbelts, or we prevent Self Deletes.

Sorry for another large point restating what everyone else has. Didn't realise everyone was writing at the same time.

Alright. What you guys said does make sense.

My youngest three siblings haven't gotten MMR simply because when they come of age to get it, they've always had a sibling that is too young to get it. If anyone has heard about the common MMR flaw, the receiver of the vaccine can potentially shed the live virus for some amount of time after administration. So if my siblings who are old enough to receive MMR and haven't gotten it yet, they could possibly infect their youngest sibling who cannot get it yet.

I'm pretty sure my mom is looking (not actively) into getting it now though, since the youngest is just recently old enough to get it now. I'm assuming she's considering it at the next physical exams, but I don't know for sure.

What's with all the flame topics about the anti-vaccinating people nowadays?
Because parents deciding their children shouldn't be vaccinated are dumb

http://imgur.com/gallery/ybBUJ

for the lazy, maybe the most relevant part;







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someone should tell anti-vaxxers that there is dihydrogen monoxide in all of their drinking water