ah, that makes more sense now. Thanks for your help, was able to make it work perfectly... well nearly. For the skis you can use the a,d keys for left and right while on the ground yet that doesn't seem to work here. could also be related to the second problem which is the mouse turning is rather weak and I'd like to increase it, but the pan, roll and tilt (in energy i think it was) doesn't increase it. what value would I increase?
Once again, thanks so much, I would never have found that value in a long long time