Author Topic: Section 18A:36-3 of New Jersey State Statute is still in my school's handbook.  (Read 2764 times)

My school's handbook says:

FLAG SALUTE
New Jersey law (18A:36-3) requires students to show respect for the flag of the United States of America. Each morning students are expected to be respectful and participate in the morning exercises.
See:
Quote from: NEW JERSEY LAW REVISION COMMISSION
Section 18A:36-3 of the New Jersey Statutes requires public schools to display the American flag and for students to stand and recite the flag salute. The statute allows students with conscientious scruples against the pledge or salute not to participate but requires them to stand at attention during the ceremony. That provision, requiring students to stand was held unconstitutional in by the United States Court of Appeals in Lipp v. Morris 579 F.2d 834 (C.A.N.J.,1978). Although the provision has been unenforceable for thirty years, it has never been removed from the statute. School officials who consult the statute may be led to believe that it is still the law and attempt to enforce it. That causes needless controversy. The Commission recommends that the unconstitutional provision be excised. The following amendment to 18A:36-3 will accomplish that result.1
The quote clearly states that the italicized part of the snippet is unconstitutional, yet it is still enforced in the student handbook. Bolded is what we are supposed to do every morning.

I am bringing this to your attention because I am wondering if I should bring this to the attention to the principal. I am concerned because I am planning to silently protest by not standing up and showing my respect to the flag by pledging to it, because of the following two lines in the Pledge of Allegiance:

  • ",under God,"
  • "with liberty and justice for all"

Item I clearly undermines the fact that the State (Government), which put this edit of the Pledge  into effect in 1954, is supposed to be separate from religion.

Item II is a personal belief. This country doesn't have liberty and justice for all. People are bullied. People who love there own gender do not have liberty and justice.

1 http://www.lawrev.state.nj.us/anachr/unconststatFR012011-rev032312.pdf

TL;DR i want to email a version of this statement to my principal, but I just want the BLF to give their opinions!!!1

imo the kids that "refuse" to say the pledge and bitch about it are stupid. its just a tradition (if that), no ones forcing you to accept jesus into your life or paint american flags on your balls, you just mumble through some words for like five seconds, why is it such a big deal.

its like jews suing people for putting christmas trees in public places, its loving dumb

op is trying too hard

I am concerned because I am planning to silently protest by not standing up and showing my respect to the flag by pledging to it.

"They can take our land, but they can't take our freedom!"
« Last Edit: August 23, 2013, 11:56:14 PM by Mounds Bar »

imo the kids that "refuse" to say the pledge and bitch about it are stupid. its just a tradition (if that), no ones forcing you to accept jesus into your life or paint american flags on your balls, you just mumble through some words for like five seconds, why is it such a big deal.

its like jews suing people for putting christmas trees in public places, its loving dumb
I would stand and do the hand over heart stuff but i didn't say the actual pledge, just did it out of respect. I wouldn't try to make a big deal out of it but being forced to do it is unconstitutional.

imo the kids that "refuse" to say the pledge and bitch about it are stupid. its just a tradition (if that), no ones forcing you to accept jesus into your life or paint american flags on your balls, you just mumble through some words for like five seconds, why is it such a big deal.

its like jews suing people for putting christmas trees in public places, its loving dumb
i remember i used to be an edgy friend starfish and not say "under god" in the pledge

i remember i used to be an edgy friend starfish and not say "under god" in the pledge
You were better than all those silly believers!!

op is trying too hard

"They can take our land, but they can't take our freedom!"
relevent:

You're making a mountain out of a molehill. If you don't want to say the pledge, fine, but it's simply polite to stand and put your hand on your heart. Remaining seated would just make you look stupid.