Author Topic: Desert! (WIP)  (Read 2793 times)

Ok, so here's my desert in Blockland


Just the things I've created so far. (The little tent is going to turn into a whole marketplace)


The tent and also showing how big this Marketplace will be.


Inside the church. (Might redesign later)


Another part of the church.


Then there's the sort of unneeded back photo.


I guess you can rate (Please note: this is a WIP.) Also, tell me what other thing I should add.
Also, if you want to help, you can. The pass to the server will be Arms. (The server will be called, "Chris72003's Desert Building")

Seems a little too flat. Try adding some sand dunes to spice up the place.

could use lots of work

but in the condition it is in right now, I'd say a solid 6/10

Water is needed somewhere on the build. People aren't gonna settle in the middle of the desert in a place with no water.

2/10
- add some sand dunes.
- spam, spam everywhere, holy stuff spam. Judging by the sides of your paths, you're using 2x2F print plates. Ew? What are you doing. No. First off, paths don't rise out of the ground, second off, don't use 2x2F plates just to use the prints. If you want good, nice looking paths that are fairly square, use mod terrain in the inverse of what you are now: freely support the paths via bricks, then surround it with terrain, but make sure those plates are 1 plate lower than flush with the terrain
- you have palm trees, 4 6 (I can't count) to be exact. 0 source of water, they're just chilling out. What? That's not how palm trees work. Do people water them like its a garden? If it rains you would have more grass than palm trees. I grew up in Arizona, trust me, they don't just pop out of the sand when you spit on it.
- by the looks of your church, it's roughly 5x high. That is not a church. That's not even a shed. You should never be able to touch the ceiling of a building (certain circumstances do not apply to this, this is not one of those circumstances.)
- Why is there a computer keyboard in a church in the desert, that appears to be made out of sandstone? What?
- That is not a tent. Go look up images of tents. I honestly cannot even begin to start with that, just go look at google images of "Arabian market" or "tent market" idk
- You have fire in a church with a short roof made of what appears to be stone or sand-stone, in the middle of the desert. I don't know about you, but in the desert, I don't have fire until it's midnight, cause THAT is when it's too damn cold (fun fact, the desert gets cold at night, no matter where you go. During the day, you can experience 125 degree weather, then at night it can drop to like 20 or 30. I've had ice on my roof before, after a VERY cold night in Arizona. Melted within 1 hour of sun-up.
- Do you live in the middle of a crater? Lose the giant walls, or at least make them more mountain like. What I personally recommend is this: expand your terrain out about 25 to 50 environment bricks away in every direction. Then, put terrain bricks on TOP of those, turn off Rendering and Raycasting, now you have invisible borders so people can't go out into the desert. Next? Go to environment control, drop that fog slider bar far to the left, and get REAAAALLLLL comfy. Now your map looks ENDLESS! Go to the edge of the barrier? I still see sand. Go to the other side? SAND! Say goodbye to living in a giant crater, hello to endless nightmares sand!
« Last Edit: June 05, 2014, 11:49:45 PM by AdinX »

SAND! Say goodbye to living in a giant crater, hello to endless nightmares sand!
amazing

Could use some work, but it's pretty good! 5/10

2/10
- spam, spam everywhere, holy stuff spam. Judging by the sides of your paths, you're using 2x2F print plates. Ew? What are you doing. No. First off, paths don't rise out of the ground, second off, don't use 2x2F plates just to use the prints. If you want good, nice looking paths that are fairly square, use mod terrain in the inverse of what you are now: freely support the paths via bricks, then surround it with terrain, but make sure those plates are 1 plate lower than flush with the terrain
- you have palm trees, 4 6 (I can't count) to be exact. 0 source of water, they're just chilling out. What? That's not how palm trees work. Do people water them like its a garden? If it rains you would have more grass than palm trees. I grew up in Arizona, trust me, they don't just pop out of the sand when you spit on it.
- by the looks of your church, it's roughly 5x high. That is not a church. That's not even a shed. You should never be able to touch the ceiling of a building (certain circumstances do not apply to this, this is not one of those circumstances.)
- Why is there a computer keyboard in a church in the desert, that appears to be made out of sandstone? What?
- That is not a tent. Go look up images of tents. I honestly cannot even begin to start with that, just go look at google images of "Arabian market" or "tent market" idk
- You have fire in a church with a short roof made of what appears to be stone or sand-stone, in the middle of the desert. I don't know about you, but in the desert, I don't have fire until it's midnight, cause THAT is when it's too damn cold (fun fact, the desert gets cold at night, no matter where you go. During the day, you can experience 125 degree weather, then at night it can drop to like 20 or 30. I've had ice on my roof before, after a VERY cold night in Arizona. Melted within 1 hour of sun-up.
- Do you live in the middle of a crater? Lose the giant walls, or at least make them more mountain like. What I personally recommend is this: expand your terrain out about 25 to 50 environment bricks away in every direction. Then, put terrain bricks on TOP of those, turn off Rendering and Raycasting, now you have invisible borders so people can't go out into the desert. Next? Go to environment control, drop that fog slider bar far to the left, and get REAAAALLLLL comfy. Now your map looks ENDLESS! Go to the edge of the barrier? I still see sand. Go to the other side? SAND! Say goodbye to living in a giant crater, hello to endless nightmares sand!
what the forget dude, chill out. you can have palms in the desert, what he's calling a tent IS a tent, and those fires are for light not heat. he obviously isn't making a stuffty loving Arizona desert so don't tell him he's doing it wrong.

what the forget dude, chill out. you can have palms in the desert, what he's calling a tent IS a tent, and those fires are for light not heat. he obviously isn't making a stuffty loving Arizona desert so don't tell him he's doing it wrong.
Lol if anyone is upset, it's you. He said we may rate, so I rated, and I gave advice for improving the build. He can leave it, or he can take it. Now, let's address your points:
palm trees- These are palm trees. I've already said yes they grow in the desert. But they need rainfall too and a root system. You will not walk 100 miles into a desert and randomly find ONLY palm trees. That doesn't happen. I'm sorry to burst your fantasy. Not to mention, your image does not show the base of those palm trees. They could be 25ft tall trees half a mile away, those dunes could be MASSIVE and covering a small oasis or dirt patch.
tent- Right but see, that's a pop-up canvas. I go camping with those. His build has a theme of like 1700s or mid 1800s from what we can tell so far, minus the random computer screen in the stone. pop-up canvas tents look NOTHING like what he has built. He's building what LOOKS like a middle-eastern town of some kind. With that in mind, a pop-up tent of another style, such as this would make MUCH more sense than a white canvas pup-tent that boyscouts bring to summer camp with them in 2014
fire- Fire = light, yes, thank you. Fire also means heat, and that is a very very very small "church." By the looks of those seats (assuming that's what they are,) whoever sits in them would be seriously burnt, as the torches sit right above them.
"stuffty loving arizona desert"- A desert is a desert lol, You must be from New York and think they're all different. Yes, some have varying levels of heat, lack of humidity, etc etc. On the other hand, they all have sand, they all lack rainfall (to the point where it is a desert), and they all pretty much look the same. The point of bringing up my experience in Arizona was I have a lot more idea what I'm talking about than say, someone from New York or from North Carolina.

I'm sorry to have upset you Dunes, but honestly, it's gallery. It exists to show off your work, and to improve it. If you can't handle that, don't bother coming to gallery. I've posted like this for two years now, maybe I'm not always nice about it, but the next build always gets higher scores and you can SEE some of the recommendations that I make.

-opinion-

I respect your opinion, although:

- I always didn't really know how to make good paths in Blockland.

- I was going to add some dunes (remember this is a Work in Progress)

- I was also going to add holes in the sand somehow that would hold water

- The church is that high, although like I said, I plan on re-doing the ugly church at some point. (I knew I should've added elevation)

- I didn't find a better print, and It's supposed to be the whatever book that is. I don't know how you mistaken it as partially brown. (or maybe because of the torches)

- I really need help with making tents in Arabic places Someone help me on this project, god dangit

- I was using the torches for the light, I was thinking about the people with shaders (I don't use shaders)

- I'm really bad at doing mountains, also that's a good idea about, "THE NEVER ENDING NIGHTMARE SAND!"


Thanks for your opinion and constructive criticism.

Lol if anyone is upset, it's you. He said we may rate, so I rated, and I gave advice for improving the build. He can leave it, or he can take it. Now, let's address your points:
palm trees- These are palm trees. I've already said yes they grow in the desert. But they need rainfall too and a root system. You will not walk 100 miles into a desert and randomly find ONLY palm trees. That doesn't happen. I'm sorry to burst your fantasy. Not to mention, your image does not show the base of those palm trees. They could be 25ft tall trees half a mile away, those dunes could be MASSIVE and covering a small oasis or dirt patch.
tent- Right but see, that's a pop-up canvas. I go camping with those. His build has a theme of like 1700s or mid 1800s from what we can tell so far, minus the random computer screen in the stone. pop-up canvas tents look NOTHING like what he has built. He's building what LOOKS like a middle-eastern town of some kind. With that in mind, a pop-up tent of another style, such as this would make MUCH more sense than a white canvas pup-tent that boyscouts bring to summer camp with them in 2014
fire- Fire = light, yes, thank you. Fire also means heat, and that is a very very very small "church." By the looks of those seats (assuming that's what they are,) whoever sits in them would be seriously burnt, as the torches sit right above them.
"stuffty loving arizona desert"- A desert is a desert lol, You must be from New York and think they're all different. Yes, some have varying levels of heat, lack of humidity, etc etc. On the other hand, they all have sand, they all lack rainfall (to the point where it is a desert), and they all pretty much look the same. The point of bringing up my experience in Arizona was I have a lot more idea what I'm talking about than say, someone from New York or from North Carolina.

I'm sorry to have upset you Dunes, but honestly, it's gallery. It exists to show off your work, and to improve it. If you can't handle that, don't bother coming to gallery. I've posted like this for two years now, maybe I'm not always nice about it, but the next build always gets higher scores and you can SEE some of the recommendations that I make.
you haven't upset me, but your post pointed out that just about everything was wrong, when it really wasn't. Who's to say that there isn't an aquifer there? And you say his tent isn't a tent (it is though, it's just odd for the build), and that you "honestly cannot even begin to start with that" instead of just linking him to something. Sure, the fire emitter is out of place there and he should probably use something more like player jet, but it seems a bit overkill to lecture him on how hot deserts are. Finally, what the hell are you talking about, deserts are not just deserts. They're all regions that lack precipitation and therefore plant life, but the Gobi Desert is different from the Sahara, which are both different from the Mojave. I'm not saying that your criticisms aren't valid, but you could sure as hell word them better.

p.s. im not a dirty east coaster, nuts to new york & north carolina.

your post pointed out that just about everything was wrong, when it really wasn't.
Which is why the OP responded to my post basically agreeing with every single point, right?
Who's to say that there isn't an aquifer there?
Can you not try to argue everything out like that? What if it rains every other day? What if the plants are mutated and make water from the sun? What if people water the plants? What if there's a lake outside the camera shot? This goes into the realm of ambiance and realism.
And you say his tent isn't a tent (it is though, it's just odd for the build), and that you "honestly cannot even begin to start with that" instead of just linking him to something.
OP admitted to needing help with tents, rather than link him I told him to google "Arabian marketplace" and the like, therefor giving him INFINITE possibilities. It takes all of three seconds to google "TENT"
Sure, the fire emitter is out of place there and he should probably use something more like player jet, but it seems a bit overkill to lecture him on how hot deserts are.
Welcome to gallery, the place where you show off your work, I am overkill, I am going to get everyone for every detail. I'm not sorry, and I'm not changing that. He's in a desert scenario, if he's gonna use torches, they should either be moved outside, or smaller so they don't take up 1/8th of the room space.
Finally, what the hell are you talking about, deserts are not just deserts. They're all regions that lack precipitation and therefore plant life, but the Gobi Desert is different from the Sahara, which are both different from the Mojave. I'm not saying that your criticisms aren't valid, but you could sure as hell word them better.
They're hot. They lack the same precipitation you would get in great plains or a deciduous forest. They are covered in sand. Typically rolling hills/dunes. I could really care less about how the Gobi Desert has 2% more grass and 28% more water than the Sahara desert, in the end, they're both deserts, which is the matter at hand
I dunno what you hope to accomplish at this point. The OP has agreed with my points or stated that he plans to fix all of the details I've pointed out. If all you can rant about is how mean I am and how I could've worded something differently, quit wasting your time.