Author Topic: Starting a small "visuals" business...  (Read 2223 times)

Sorry, I want to keep the tips, I'm rather fond of them. :) Also, just so you guys know, it's not a choice between these, all three can and will be used in varying settings.

work on yo color schemes, those colors don't look appealing together

maybe come up with designs for lettering instead of using a fancy font too

here's some old stuff of mine

N and a Z at the same time

obviously a U and a D

<- more recent version of that
« Last Edit: June 11, 2014, 07:29:38 PM by Zloff »

work on yo color schemes, those colors don't look appealing together

maybe come up with designs for lettering instead of using a fancy font too

here's some old stuff of mine

N and a Z at the same time

obviously a U and a D

<- more recent version of that
The colors are fine, IMO. No offense, but I'm not going to take your advice on colors - the leftmost and rightmost of the above hurt my eyes and that green is pretty standard (although I understand you said it's old stuff, may not be a current representation of your style). Also, that IS custom lettering, completely hand made.

Better (click for full image)?



Ah yes. I would like to get my digital art done at EAA upside down A

You should really get rid of that center line its unappealing. Its part of the E but has nothing to do with the M and V


Doesn't matter if it has "nothing to do with" the m and v. Only someone with a potato for a brain would actually think that's an a. If people can use upside down v's for a's, then I think I have the right to do so if I choose. The thing is, people are going to have opinions about artistic things that differ from other people's. Therefore, since this is my business, I'm going to make a logo that I like, instead of trying please many individuals, which frankly is pretty much impossible. Guess what? There are some changes I wouldn't mind doing to my aunt's company logo, and she's a professional graphic designer. There will always be opinions.

Now, you might argue that if someone doesn't know what EMV stands for, they might mistake the v as an upside down a. But remember, the main logo doesn't have text, so even if it was lineless, they wouldn't know what the logo is; it's still a vague acronym. The point of the logo is something called "brand recognition", and since it does not contain the business name, it doesn't necessarily need to be easily legible. I'll leave that to the text that says "Ethan Michalicek Visuals". If you were a client and telling me this, I'd change it, of course. But as my own logo, I want to keep the line.

Also, it has a bit of a hidden meaning as well. E and M are my first an last initials, and A happens to be my middle initial. And that line does serve a purpose; it makes the whole logo more symmetrical horizontally.

I sure wouldn't hire someone who takes suggestions with an attitude like that, how the hell would you cooperate with your clients?

and honestly with mediocre artwork/editing jobs like yours you should be really considering whatever little criticism you get, like all new digital artists who are passionate about their field of work should. Art is obviously about expressing yourself, but the field you're getting into requires you make designs by request, which calls for standards in quality, acceptance by the general public, and constant evolution in your own style and skills if you intend to be successful

Unless your working for Steve jobs that might not be the best attitude for suggestions

I sure wouldn't hire someone who takes suggestions with an attitude like that, how the hell would you cooperate with your clients?

and honestly with mediocre artwork/editing jobs like yours you should be really considering whatever little criticism you get, like all new digital artists who are passionate about their field of work should. Art is obviously about expressing yourself, but the field you're getting into requires you make designs by request, which calls for standards in quality, acceptance by the general public, and constant evolution in your own style and skills if you intend to be successful
Unless your working for Steve jobs that might not be the best attitude for suggestions
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If you were a client and telling me this, I'd change it, of course.
Read. Also, I do accept criticism on most of my work, and recognize the fact that I am still an amateur. But I thought that I made it pretty clear this is one thing that I don't want suggestions on. If not, then I'll say it now: I do not want suggestions for my logo. For the time being, the logo is finalized. I am willing to take critique for future work, but this is something I don't want to negotiate. And for your information, I have had clients before, for video, photo, and graphics, and I've never had an issue discussing with/taking suggestions from my clients. How I approach clients is completely different from how I approach the BLF.

Also, when the conversations start like this...
dude.... lmao
i just feel like a graphic design "business" should have a logo that doesnt look like it was made in mspaint
...of course I'm gonna get defensive, it's only natural. I mean, come on. This is the Blockland Forum. You people are harsh. :P

God I wish I could afford Photoshop and Illustrator.

Did you get them at a discount or something?

They were on the computer I got from my aunt (who is a graphic designer). It included Photoshop, Illustrator, Flash, Bridge, InDesign, and a couple other random Adobe programs I don't use. Since then I've also gotten Adobe Lightroom (photo editing) and After Effects. My aunt bought me After Effects with her teacher's discount.

Is PS CS4 any good? They have it on our school computers.

Is PS CS4 any good? They have it on our school computers.
I use CS5 (I have CS4 too, never used it), but I'm sure it works just fine.