also yea, i wasn't trying to say that egalitarianism is the belief in equal gender rights. i'm saying that since it's the belief in the equal rights of all people, it includes men and women. i guess it doesnt work if you are a neo national socialist feminist but w/e
ah ok rereading it with that context i can see that now. i think really most reasonable feminists would be, in principle, egalitarian as well, but they just choose to wear the hat of feminism when that's the subject matter. the two defo aren't mutually exclusive. in fact, in a vacuum, feminism would probably be a natural result of egalitarianism. of course, if you're loveist and think men are inherently horrible, then there are some conflicting ideologies goin on which might make this a difficult relationship. maybe really all that's actually just an aversion to the people who they think have the power, who knows.