would you consider the iphone 5s outdated?

[hillkill]

yeah i havent either because i havent bought bluetooth earbuds before and i dont plan on it anytime soon

apple might not be the only one dropping the headphone jack soon.

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[Mr Queeba]

the entire problem with wireless bluetooth headsets is 2 things: latency (good luck listening to movies without noticing a delay between what you see and hear, as well as playing mobile games) and sound quality (this will only really matter to audiophiles but the standard jack has better quality sound). apple forgeted up by removing the headphone jack calling it """""courage""""" because as we all know apple is crap and pointlessly removes useful and actually used things from their devices.

[Willco2]

apple might not be the only one dropping the headphone jack soon.

yes and im aware of that, i dont buy stuffty apple products

[Drydess]

oftentimes i connect my phone to the car with a cord bc the bluetooth in my car is crap

[Super Suit 12]

What if they decide to remove Blue Tooth next, Huh?
What if they make a proprietary blue tooth, Apple Air?
How Long until we become puppets for the Companies?

You lost me on the last line, there.
Apple's just creating a need for their hardware by making it so nobody else is allowed to run their software. It's like a bookshelf only holding books from a specific publisher, and only that bookshelf holding books from that publisher. It's stupid. I want one bookshelf that holds whatever books I want to put on it.

apple might not be the only one dropping the headphone jack soon.

But because Android isn't specific to a certain line of phones, I can choose a different company's phone without switching OSes and losing the apps I like. Someone will continue making headphone jacks.
This is why you don't make stuff proprietary or whatever it's called.

[Mr Queeba]

a good example of a phone that still has the headphone jack is the google pixel, in their marketing they actually used the fact that the jack was there in their advertising to kind of fire a shot at apple

[Insert Name Here²]

Even the loving S8 has a headphone jack and that phone is the top of the line with what you can get lol

Removing an essential port =/= future, it just creates trouble for literally everyone

[Trymos]

the quality can only get so good with stereo lol

for headphones what the forget are you expecting

stereo is literally the realistic cap for speakers on headphones

on top of that you're talking about loving quality

have you ever used a pair of $200 non-beats headphones then used a $60-70 pair? the difference is loving night and day.
from infinitely superior build quality (one side not going out on you in about shortly after a year but instead actually being built like tanks)
to clarity and superior choice of preferences in sound type (some people don't like so much bass, that's why sennheiser exists among other things)

this also translates over into ear buds too, it's not limited to headphones, and they're all stereo too.

for bonus points, people think no headphone jack is gonna be the standard despite being hated by basically everyone and all the companies are taking the ever-living piss out of apple for it.

[Insert Name Here²]

-truth-

This

Limiting it to just Bluetooth and proprietary connectors removes all of the pros of other headphones have to offer

[Trymos]

This

Limiting it to just Bluetooth and proprietary connectors removes all of the pros of other headphones have to offer

oh and for bonus points
3.5MM headphone jacks draw directly from your sound card/chip, which means your sound quality is entirely dependent on how good your sound card/chip is (ignoring the cans themselves of course).

when you use bluetooth/thunderbolt/usbofanytype you're now forcing headphone manufacturers to have built in sound chips since there is no longer a direct source to draw from, this is why you have separate proprietary audio drivers for USB and bluetooth and thunderbolt headphones while 3.5MM doesn't require any additional installation because you probably have sound card drivers already installed and that's what 3.5MM draws from. this makes a huger pain in the ass to use different headphones on different devices and if it sounds a bit stuff it's probably because the manufacturer skimped out on either the cans themselves or the audio chip, since there's now a much higher manufacturing cost involved.

[Insert Name Here²]

oh and for bonus points
3.5MM headphone jacks draw directly from your sound card/chip, which means your sound quality is entirely dependent on how good your sound card/chip is.

when you use bluetooth/thunderbolt/usbofanytype you're now forcing headphone manufacturers to have built in sound chips since there is no longer a direct source to draw from, this is why you have separate proprietary audio drivers for USB and bluetooth and thunderbolt headphones while 3.5MM doesn't require any additional installation because you probably have sound card drivers already installed and that's what 3.5MM draws from. this makes a huger pain in the ass to use different headphones on different devices and if it sounds a bit stuff it's probably because the manufacturer skimped out on either the cans themselves or the audio chip, since there's now a much higher manufacturing cost involved.

THIS TOO