Fox News says killing N.N. will save the internet

[OrangeMan³]

anonymous just investigateed ajit pai holy forget

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[Ipquarx]

feel free to pay them to run fiber optic out to me though id appreciate it

the government literally did that and they didn't do stuff
this is 100% on them to solve lmao
If their infrastructure is literally so stuffty that it can't handle legitimate user requests that's not on the users, that's not on the business, that's on them

[limerick]

without net neautrality how am i gonna watch i dubz

[HellHound]

iirc, comcast and time warner have a profit margin of like 90%. the idea that they cannot afford to create new infrastructure is absurd

[e-maxx]

you guys remember what happened when we deregulated the banks

[Tactical Nuke]

anonymous just investigateed ajit pai holy forget

could you possibly make your case worse for yourself

[Headcrab Zombie]

what is a service provider supposed to do in areas with old or lower-capacity infrastructure? i (and a number of other people i know) live in an area with older infrastructure that is incapable of handling peak demand in the evenings and on weekends. it only started becoming an issue a few years ago when a number of our neighbors started using netflix, and that's been the case for other people i've asked

This is exactly why you should support NN: All businesses want to continuously increase revenue. One of the main ways to do this is by increasing your customer base. But what incentive do ISPs have to invest in expanding infrastructure to reach more people, if we're going to instead allow them to just wring more and more money out of the same infrastructure they already have?

If you don't think ISPs have the money to invest is infrastructure, then address the numerous people making claims to the contrary:

Isn’t that why I pay an internet bill every month?

Man that would be a great retort if ISPs weren't actively wasting subsidies given to them to specifically expand infrastructure...

the government literally did that and they didn't do stuff

iirc, comcast and time warner have a profit margin of like 90%. the idea that they cannot afford to create new infrastructure is absurd

big companies using absurd amounts of bandwidth and flooring everyone else with the ISPs unable to do anything to ensure everything else is able to function in resource-limited situations
netflix and youtube alone were already well over 50% combined in 2015, can't imagine that's improved

Millions of people accessing Netflix and Youtube means that millions of people are subscribing to internet service plans, and thus paying ISPs, in order to gain this access

[IkeTheGeneric]

wow it's almost like giving private corporations money from the government is a bad loving idea huh wowziers

It's almost as if you're missing the point and you're an idiot

[Ceist]

I want to make a point along how much money ISP's have to increase infrastructure.

I live in a rural community of only 10,000 people. Almost every single block of my town is outfitted with fiber optics. Even farm houses out in the country have fiber optics and high speed internet. To say that removing NN will give ISP's the funds to accommodate everyone with modern high-speed internet is ignorant.

[Deus Ex]

It's almost as if you're missing the point and you're an idiot

It's almost like giving money to private entities from the government is loving handicapped

[Drydess]

It's almost like giving money to private entities from the government is loving handicapped

N O S H I T

[otto-san]

It's almost like giving money to private entities from the government is loving handicapped

the problem is that we're not holding the private entities to adequate transparency standards when they receive taxpayer money, not that giving them taxpayer money is an inherently flawed idea.

more generally, giving private entities money expecting them to use it to benefit customers is always a loving stupid idea, no matter who is footing the bill. that's why if you're giving them money specifically for them to do it, you have to make sure that's what they actually do. if you aren't willing to make them do that, then you shouldn't even start to think about companies using free extra money to act in public interest voluntarily, whether it be out of your pocket directly through bills or through your taxes

[Foxscotch]

It's almost like giving money to private entities from the government is loving handicapped

agreed, you should never expect corporations to do the right thing

[IkeTheGeneric]

It's almost like giving money to private entities from the government is loving handicapped

Congrats, you reached the conclusion I did. My point was that the government foolishly gave them money with no oversight, the ISPs completely forewent expanding their infrastructure to instead bully networks and throttle internet speed before NN.