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Dell's computers last quite a while. I still have a working Inspiron laptop from 2003.
i got this refurbished computer 2 years ago.
it hasnt broken down on me and only got a virus twice, but because of my own curiosity.
very reliable

No such thing as an i9?  Have you heard of Intel's newly released six core processor on the x58 platform?  That used to be called the i9 and is now the i7 980?

http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,688273/Core-i7-980X-aka-Core-i9-First-CPU-said-to-be-6-core-Gulftown-Update-New-details-leaked/News/

I just said that.

3.5 actually, I bring it down a bit when I'm not doing anything particularly CPU-intensive.

That used to be called the i9 and is now the i7 980.

You must have it set to auto-voltages, because unless you have some form of super chip, it wouldn't run stable without changing the voltages.

There is no i9 processor.  It doesn't exist.

Dude, buy the freakin' PC.  The one you were going to buy, the alienware one.  That's perfect.  It's great.  Nothing is wrong with it.  You will love it.  Stop worrying about it.

I hate alienware for real though. The case is ugly and overrated and the price is silly for what you get.


I'll give it 6 months before it breaks.

I work in the IT department on campus and we are purely Dell based. We are still running hundreds of machines that are 6 years old. Generally they need replacement due to outdated hardware before they need replacement due to failure.

The Alienware appears to be a better option. It is worrisome that the "PCspecialist" would make such a glaring mistake as that of the power supply.

The i7 930/X58 platform has loads of great features but doesn't necessarily equate to higher gaming performance. An i5 750 would offer similar levels of performance at a much cheaper price. An i7 on the P55 chipset would give you hyperthreading if you need that and you would still avoid the higher cost of an X58 motherboard.

It is worrisome that the "PCspecialist" would make such a glaring mistake as that of the power supply.

They had this guide here: http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/pc-help/#19

I doubt it's totally wrong or they'd get a lot more complaints.

Although liquid cooling is only £50 I wouldn't go for it.

Liquid is unnecessary for an un-overclocked machine.


Everything in that alienware PC is taken care of.  The CPU comes with it's own heatsink, and alienware will have already installed that, since that's part of the "prebuilt".  All fans are already in the case, everything is done for you, you don't have to worry about it.

I'm sure this comes with a heatsink too. They even said they'd add as many fans as was necessary.

Also what's the difference between the i7 920 and the 930?

You must have it set to auto-voltages, because unless you have some form of super chip, it wouldn't run stable without changing the voltages.

There is no i9 processor.  It doesn't exist.

First off, the i9 processor IS the i7 980x.  They changed the name extremely late in production.  The only thing that is changed is the semantics.  Are you really the kind of person who will argue to the death based on semantics?


As to your first point, no I did not set to auto-voltages, my voltages are all set to default.  It runs perfectly stable up to 3.5GHz.  You should've read that link I gave earlier in this thread.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i7-920-overclocking_11.html#sect0

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We decided to find the maximum frequency our Core i7-920 processor will be able to hit without any additional voltage increase. For this experiment we locked the processor core voltage and Uncore voltage at their standard 1.2V in the ASUS P6T Deluxe mainboard BIOS.

To avoid any unexpected surprises during overclocking, we disabled EIST and Turbo Boost technologies and locked the CPU multiplier at 20x – the default setting for Core i7-920 with 2.66GHz nominal clock speed. We set 8x multiplier for the memory. Therefore, since Uncore frequency should be at least twice as high as the memory frequency, we used 16x multiplier for it. To get the desired QPI frequency setting, we used the lowest available multiplier of 18x.

With these settings our BCLK frequency reached 175MHz without any stability issues. By the way, we tested our system stability using 64-bit Prime95 25.7 utility in Small FFTs and Blend modes.

As a result, our processor overclocked to 3.5GHz, which is a pretty good result considering it worked at its default 1.2V Vcore.  The maximum core temperature during the stability tests never exceeded 74°C.

I use the same settings, and get pretty much the same temperatures, sometimes mine gets hotter by 1 or 2°C since I use a different heatsink.

Now, please stop arguing with me if you aren't going to actually look up any of your inane statements yourself.


Also what's the difference between the i7 920 and the 930?

The 930 is the new version of the 920.  They are the exact same in architecture and revision, the 930 just has a higher clock speed.  They should be the same in cost, but go with whichever one is cheapest if they are not.

Computers make Duckmeister agitated. :c ^

First off, the i9 processor IS the i7 980x.  They changed the name extremely late in production.  The only thing that is changed is the semantics.  Are you really the kind of person who will argue to the death based on semantics?

They changed the name to the i7 980x quite a bit before the release of the processor.  There has never been an i9.  I will concede the OC'ing, even though I think it's unsafe.  My buddy got his up to 3.617 stable on stock voltages before adjusting them to make it safer and clock it to 4.

Yes, I will argue to the death about semantics.

Okay, fair enough.


If you have the money, you can dish it out for EVGA's new mobo that supports 48 GB RAM, 2 CPU Sockets, etc. This will make running servers very simple but it will be very costly.

http://www.evga.com/articles/00537/


Anyways, a real brand new PC costs around a thousand dollars. 1.2k if you're going for a fully entrepreneur ed out i7 system @ 64Bit (Meaning, +4GB RAM or higher)