The problem with TDMs DMs and CTFs

[PJ Boy]

They can't, if you have a good prisoner it will take about 5 cops to take him out, it's way too easy for them.

Cops have guns. Prisoners have fists. One cop could take out two prisoners at once.

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[Bushido]

someone needs to make a proper gun pack. with about a dozen range, melee, and throwing weapons. all balanced out perfectly with each other so that a person can use any one of them and kick ass.

and as long as that is the only weapon addon someone uses, the weapons will work.

but i-

never mind.

[phflack]

They all have spawnkilling admin abuse and stuffty builds and stuffty layouts and stuffty spawning and stuffty balance unless they're done by Tactic or DMP...

Or a person with even a moderate brain.

They mostly are run by handicaps.

i make somewhat decent ones, or at least try to :D

i want to see a tdm using swords, spears, and bows.
harder kills are way way more fun.


all these guns people are making are loving stupid.

i do like using defaults, and maybe a few others like ephi's shotgun, or the TF2 flame thrower

[Jorgur]

The real problem is that most servers are run by incompetent hosts. I liked it better when the port forwarding required you to be non-handicapped.

[naturemon]

Cops have guns. Prisoners have fists. One cop could take out two prisoners at once.

I beg to differ, if the cop does this, he gets kicked for freekilling, he has to wait until the prisoner poses a threat to him or is escaping, which would mean, he can't shoot until he is punched in the back of the head.

[Vertigo]

Forgot another thing I wanted to say. When the admin forgets to turn off friendly fire and your own team keeps running you over, also I hate it when people try to act like the leader in a TDM.

[MamaLuigi]

someone needs to make a proper gun pack. with about a dozen range, melee, and throwing weapons. all balanced out perfectly with each other so that a person can use any one of them and kick ass.

Yeah, if only such a think existed. Even better is if the weapons were arranged in "tiers" according to how powerful they are so DM builders could plan their build accordingly. Maybe we should get an experienced modeler like Bushido to work on that.

Sarcasm aside, the problem I find with DM builds is that they're often unbalanced, both in weapons used and how they're built. That, and they tend to just be plain unfun.

I would also like to see a medieval/tribal DM with spears and bows and such.

[prnceoprsia]

The real problem is that most servers are run by incompetent hosts. I liked it better when the port forwarding required you to be non-handicapped.

God, This is so true.

[Doomonkey]

Any DM that does not have the ideas you listed as 'stupid' is unbalanced.

No, it becomes balanced because the now all the weapons are equally powerful and realistic. Making it not only balanced, but fast-paced.

Realistically powered weapons are good if they can be managed properly.

[naturemon]

Forgot another thing I wanted to say. When the admin forgets to turn off friendly fire and your own team keeps running you over, also I hate it when people try to act like the leader in a TDM.

I don't think the leader thing is bad, it depends on who is acting like one, I usually do this, BUT when they actually listen, we usually win. It all depends on who's doing it, usually the smartest and best shooter should do this.

[ipodmemorizer55]

I don't think the leader thing is bad, it depends on who is acting like one, I usually do this, BUT when they actually listen, we usually win. It all depends on who's doing it, usually the smartest and best shooter should do this.

For me, I see no difference in being a leader and being just a regular person on a team. They gotta do the same stuff and find the same stuff and kill the same stuff. Big deal. I wish people would stop acting like they own the team just because they have leadership. It means nothing.

[naturemon]

For me, I see no difference in being a leader and being just a regular person on a team. They gotta do the same stuff and find the same stuff and kill the same stuff. Big deal. I wish people would stop acting like they own the team just because they have leadership. It means nothing.

Well with a TDM it doesn't matter, but if you have lives, THIS is where it makes a difference.

[ipodmemorizer55]

Well with a TDM it doesn't matter, but if you have lives, THIS is where it makes a difference.

I guess you're right on that.

[Carly]

It's usually safe to go with a DM made by someone you know will do it right. There are ways to counter most of the problems here.

[Flying Ace]

blockland was made for building mini games is just a side thing people