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Achievement hunting (steam only)
Marcem:
--- Quote from: Grumpy on October 30, 2010, 12:17:29 AM ---The Gamerscore on Xbox is cool because it ranks the challenges, like in how hard they are.
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That's the one thing I like though.
--- Quote from: yuki on October 30, 2010, 12:01:09 AM ---The forget are you talking about? They're the same exact thing, only the xbox ones include a points-based system. It's not indicative of your level of skill, it's just a number that represents the amount of achievements you have. In-fact, I rarely hear anyone even mention that number, except when comparing with friends. I like the number because it's just a neat tidbit. It isn't worth anything, but whatever, I just like to see my achievements add up.
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I just hate things setting a number to how many ___ I have for the world to see. I think of it as the ID thing in Blockland, how people would discriminate based upon IDs. Maybe if it would only show this per game it would work well, but it's just a mess right now.
yuki:
--- Quote from: Marcem on October 30, 2010, 12:45:19 AM ---That's the one thing I like though.I just hate things setting a number to how many ___ I have for the world to see. I think of it as the ID thing in Blockland, how people would discriminate based upon IDs. Maybe if it would only show this per game it would work well, but it's just a mess right now.
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It works just fine, it's not a mess at all. I don't even know where you're getting that from.
Also it is "per-game", every game has 1000 gamerscore by default, 800 for arcade games, and more for DLC. The entire idea behind gamerscore was tallying the total of all of your games. It's just a number, and honestly, gamerscore elitists don't exist. Like I said, it's just a friendly competitive doohickey. Like scores on old arcade machines.
Marcem:
It's broken in the fact that it's basically "buy more games, get higher score" That's just not right, why should you assign what cool things you've done in different games to one score? It would just work a lot better if it assigned the scores to the games they apply in. It's also broken because some achievements may be labeled as hard when it's actually really easy, or vice versa. You don't get scored in space invaders by how well you do in donkey kong. You're not getting the per game concept, I'm saying that you get scored for each game, then that is displayed when you compare achievements. (And why does microsoft limit every single thing on the xbox? I've never really gotten that? can't developers make their own game?)
yuki:
--- Quote from: Marcem on October 30, 2010, 01:08:59 AM ---It's broken in the fact that it's basically "buy more games, get higher score" That's just not right, why should you assign what cool things you've done in different games to one score? It would just work a lot better if it assigned the scores to the games they apply in. It's also broken because some achievements may be labeled as hard when it's actually really easy, or vice versa. You don't get scored in space invaders by how well you do in donkey kong. You're not getting the per game concept, I'm saying that you get scored for each game, then that is displayed when you compare achievements. (And why does microsoft limit every single thing on the xbox? I've never really gotten that? can't developers make their own game?)
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That's not being broken. Broken implies a lack of functionality, but gamerscore works perfectly fine for what it is supposed to do. You're missing the entire point, it's not supposed to be that in-depth, it's not a fantastic scoring system, it just talleys points gained from achievements. That's it. That's all there is to it, it just counts achievements.
Also to respond to the boldened bit:
That's irrelevant for two reasons:
1. Regardless of the achievement, you can only get 1000 points from each game.
2. I'm pretty sure they moderate the achievements a little bit.
and to the ital bit:
I don't understand what you mean by this. It's simply not coherent.
Marcem:
--- Quote from: yuki on October 30, 2010, 01:20:25 AM ---I don't understand what you mean by this. It's simply not coherent.
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It's not supposed to be, really. I'm just wondering why Microsoft has so many restrictions on some things, like avatars. Have you read the restrictions on games containing them?