PC FPS gamers more skilled then 360 ones

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Chrono:
C&C Renegade had some sort of auto-aim if you play the campaign on easy. As long as the enemy was in the circle of your crosshair, it hits them. It was a PC game.

Okay so there's like, two PC games with auto-aim. How many console games don't have it?

_Rave_:

--- Quote from: Marcem on November 16, 2010, 05:59:44 PM ---Ooh, I'm losing the argument! Uhh, what should I say? Oh! Let's say he's just a weaboo, no, an starfish! That'll get him good!

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Dkamm and I hadn't debated one word, he decided that he would just go ahead and insult me for some reason.

--- Quote from: Chrono on November 16, 2010, 06:02:50 PM ---Seriously though.
Try to use a controller on a PC shooter. You will miss because it lacks auto-aim.
Don't try to deny this. I've played console shooters on a regular basis. Several of them. They auto aim, and have awkward controls.
The auto aim isn't actually as big a help as you might think. The player has to be inside of the small crosshairs that you have for the game to move the sights over the player, and even then that is the end of auto aim; you need to follow the player manually.

I don't even see how someone could say using a keyboard and mouse is bad, unless you were playing a game that wasn't a shooter or MMORPG.
Seriously. Motion-controlled mouse or pressure-controlled stick?
I'm going with motion, because that's how people move. It's natural. It makes better use of our co-ordination. I cannot see any faults with using a mouse.
You clearly aren't a hunter, nothing is natural about videogames and guns together. The joystick/mouse debate is purely preference.

A keyboard? How can this even be remotely uncomfortable? It's gotta be the most laziest and easy to use device ever used for gaming. Especially for FPS games. 1-2 fingers for WASD, you rarely ever have to hit any of the other buttons at the same time.
Well with WASD you are stuck on an 8 axis movement path, correct? I also don't like the method of switching weapons and knifing and what not. I have actually gained a reaction when playing cod. When I am surprised, I press the right thumbstick immediately.

The only kinds of games that I'll prefer a controller over a keyboard/mouse is action/fighting games. Like BlazBlue or Dynasty Warriors. Or old-school games. They don't feel right without a controller.
I totally agree with you there.

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--- Quote from: dkamm65 on November 16, 2010, 06:14:05 PM ---Uh oh, Rave called me an starfish. I guess I'd better cry now.

Lame comebacks aside, you have yet to prove you actually have a clue about that of which you speak.

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--- Quote from: Chrono on November 16, 2010, 06:14:53 PM ---Arguing with stupid person [Rave]. -5 points.

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--- Quote from: dkamm65 on November 16, 2010, 06:30:21 PM ---Yeah I kinda contradicted myself. Sue me.

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Yeah lets just be the huge starfishs that we are as normal, even if someone is trying to start a civilized debate.

Marcem:

--- Quote from: _Rave_ on November 16, 2010, 11:02:58 PM ---Yeah lets just be the huge starfishs that we are as normal, even if someone is trying to start a civilized debate.

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Hahaha. You say that right after you post that someone is an starfish and only that.

_Rave_:

--- Quote from: Marcem on November 16, 2010, 11:14:39 PM ---Hahaha. You say that right after you post that someone is an starfish and only that.

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Funny thing is that you clearly missed that first part of my post that directly addressed you.

Dkamm insulted me directly even before we began discussing anything.

I insulted him back.

Problem? I'd sure hope not.

Chrono:

--- Quote from: _Rave_ on November 16, 2010, 11:02:58 PM ---The auto aim isn't actually as big a help as you might think. The player has to be inside of the small crosshairs that you have for the game to move the sights over the player, and even then that is the end of auto aim; you need to follow the player manually.

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I'm aware of this, as I play shooters on the consoles more often than the PC.

--- Quote from: _Rave_ on November 16, 2010, 11:02:58 PM ---You clearly aren't a hunter, nothing is natural about videogames and guns together.

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You don't understand what I was trying to say. When you think to grab something, do you think "move my thumb down to the right" or "move my hand to where it is"? I'm not trying to put video games and guns together. I'm trying to put first person controls and co-ordination together.

--- Quote from: _Rave_ on November 16, 2010, 11:02:58 PM ---Well with WASD you are stuck on an 8 axis movement path, correct? I also don't like the method of switching weapons and knifing and what not. I have actually gained a reaction when playing cod. When I am surprised, I press the right thumbstick immediately.

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The WASD part I can understand. The part about the switching weapons to knife is really an issue with the game, not the keyboard/mouse. A developer could easily set the knife to be right click, rather than switching to it. Blame them, not the hardware.

--- Quote from: _Rave_ on November 16, 2010, 11:02:58 PM ---I totally agree with you there.

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I guess it's because you need very few buttons (in BlazBlue's case), and as for Dynasty warriors, using a control stick to move rather than WASD, as previously mentioned, is something critically needed. Now that I think about it, the controller may be the cause as to why I am able to hit people so easily in DWO, where they are throwing their attacks at strange angles.

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