I'm not attacking his "validity", it was partly a warning for him to back off and partly calling him out on hypocrisy. I notice you completely disregard the fact that Iban's argument was calling Nickel creepy to attack his credibility as well, but you're okay with that because you're the kind of referee that always calls in favor of his favored side, or you're just a really bad referee. Probably both.
Now are we quite done?
How can you tell someone to back off and claim they are hypocritical without questioning their validity in the process?
My point is, then, that however hypocritical an argument is has no effect in a validity. I do not care that the creepiness is being used to attack validity as you will note my argument has been specifically your points about being hypocritical.
Quote from: rkynick on Today at 08:42:48 PM
You can't say his opinion on whether or not someone is a creep is invalid because he himself is a creep.
For example.
Granted, however, I did claim
Quote from: rkynick on Today at 08:50:15 PM
I am bothering you about saying his argument lacks legitimacy because he is a creep.
but in the context, that is saying his argument about creepiness lacks legitimacy because he is a creep, and thus it is still about hypocrisy.
I also said
Quote from: rkynick on Today at 08:42:48 PM
I explained why it was invalid; The example is meant to prove the point, you can't base the legitimacy of what someone says on what kind of person they are, and if that was your sole argument against the legitimacy of what he said, someone else with more legitimacy could easily repeat it verbatim and render your argument irrelevant.
and to that extent I suppose I could bother Iban about it as well, if it would make you feel any better.
In any case, I am not a referee. I have never claimed to be. I dislike an argument you used. I'm not sure where you get the feeling that I agree in any way with Iban, other than that I have ignored him. I haven't thought about it because I've been focused on you. I really don't care about it. What I have said to you may very well stand for the both of you, but I don't see him bothering to defend his methods, if they are so similar to yours.
Like I said, however, stop broadening the subject. This is about you.