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Battlefield Megathread
Qwepir:
--- Quote from: Messes on November 05, 2011, 04:41:15 PM ---Then you're doing it wrong bro, learn how to actually use Recon class to its potential lmfao
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There is no reason to "actually use" recon because there is nothing it can do that other classes can't do better except for putting up a SOFLAM or scouting with the MAV. Every other tool in the Recon's kit is worthless and encourages spectating the match.
Oh wait a minute weren't you defending TDM as a gamemode a while ago?
It all makes sense now.
Messes:
--- Quote from: Qwepir on November 05, 2011, 04:48:51 PM ---There is no reason to "actually use" recon because there is nothing it can do that other classes can't do better except for putting up a SOFLAM or scouting with the MAV. Every other tool in the Recon's kit is worthless and encourages spectating the match.
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Now you just completely changed your reason. Allow me to show you.
--- Quote from: Qwepir on November 05, 2011, 04:39:33 PM ---Oh no someone helps their team instead of masturbating in a bush waiting for someone to come by how awful.
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You're saying recon camps whole match and basically "spectates" which is just hilariously stupid. Mulch even said he can do the same thing by
--- Quote from: Mulch on November 05, 2011, 04:42:15 PM ---slap a 4x acog sight on my Mk11 all the time. I usually run capping point to point with it.
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as I can do the same, and I'm sure everyone else can, that point is invalid. You can camp just as hard with any other class.
But now you're talking about how there's no real reason to use Recon when other classes can "do it better". Let me ask you something. Is there any reason to use Assault to get kills when Engineer can do it better? Hell, it has RPG's that can destroy vehicles. But guess what? Support can be better too by mowing down massive crowds with an LMG.
Any class can do anything the others can do, it's the gadgets that matter too. Now yes, the MAV is so insanely useful, I actually help my team as a whole by spotting enemies. Free points for me. You're not thinking outside the box. Instead of your "I get lots of kills to help my team" attitude, a recons would be more "I sniped the guy who was getting in a -vehicle- and PREVENTED him from killing us" or "I sniped the guy capping the flag from afar".
Now besides the fact that every class can use PDW's and Shotguns, they are all the same. You just probably don't have the patience for being a sniper or the marksmanship. I mean, just because it probably doesn't fit your playtype of running right in doesn't mean it's not valuable. Please think. Thank you
edit as well: okay okay it is all clear now, we are talking about conquest, our mistakes
Qwepir:
--- Quote from: Messes on November 05, 2011, 04:56:28 PM ---Let me ask you something. Is there any reason to use Assault to get kills when Engineer can do it better?
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So if you want to get kills on a more or less individual scale (be it vehicle or infantry) while not being able to help your allied infantry, you would be engineer.
--- Quote from: Messes on November 05, 2011, 04:56:28 PM ---Hell, it has RPG's that can destroy vehicles. But guess what? Support can be better too by mowing down massive crowds with an LMG.
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So if you want to handle crowd control instead of vehicle kills, be support.
Recon cannot do any of these better. They have no healing capabilities, they have no resupply abilities, no indirect fire weapons, no anti vehicle weapons, and no crowd control weapons. The only remotely helpful tools they have are the SOFLAM and MAV and those encourage the cowardly bush-person playstyle that make recons such annoying teammates.
--- Quote from: Messes on November 05, 2011, 04:56:28 PM ---edit as well: okay okay it is all clear now, we are talking about conquest, our mistakes
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And offensive rush. Recons on offense in rush are absolutely worthless unless using a PDW and spawn beacon/tugs.
Defense they become more useful as an area-denial class but I'd still rather have another healer or AT on the field.
zookuw:
--- Quote from: Qwepir on November 05, 2011, 04:48:51 PM ---There is no reason to "actually use" recon because there is nothing it can do that other classes can't do better except for putting up a SOFLAM or scouting with the MAV. Every other tool in the Recon's kit is worthless and encourages spectating the match.
Oh wait a minute weren't you defending TDM as a gamemode a while ago?
It all makes sense now.
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tdm is fun :c
Qwepir:
Spawns are completely broken. Why can't there just be "bases" where people spawn a la Halo?