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Cubelands, you have no idea.
Mega-Bear:
--- Quote from: DontCare4Free on August 07, 2011, 07:51:07 AM ---In what way?
Reading is not dependant on hearing in any way.
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They're taught to structure their sentences differently.
Dissolve:
--- Quote from: Stocking on August 07, 2011, 09:25:54 AM ---Yes there is, your brain isn't wired to read, speaking comes natural but literacy is a man-made construct. It's a completely different concept, you just don't learn to speak that way. Yes he can understand, but he can't learn from it in the same way we learn to speak from hearing the language.
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A quick google seach tells me English grammar, along with this My Web of Trust rating, you can learn grammar online, which doesn't involve hearing, so my only question is why hasn't he learned it yet? I'm also sure there are more websites, I just searched "English Grammar Lessons" on google and that was one of the websites.
I know a deaf guy who doesn't use sign language, he types on his phone or writes it down, and guess what? It's just about as good grammar you can get.
What I'm saying here is just because someone is handicapped in a way, doesn't mean they should get special treatment for things that don't apply to them. It's like saying I need a wheel chair because I never learned to walk, but it's OK because I'm blind.
Ontopic:
Cubelands was a bit harsh in the suggestion but even through his broken grammar was right.
DontCare4Free:
--- Quote from: Mega-Bear on August 07, 2011, 12:46:27 PM ---They're taught to structure their sentences differently.
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So essentially it's a flaw in the ASL?
Stocking:
--- Quote from: DontCare4Free on August 07, 2011, 01:45:39 PM ---So essentially it's a flaw in the ASL?
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Essentially, but people like Dissolve find online lessons for hearing people and automatically assumes that all deaf people are capable of perfect English.
Dissolve:
--- Quote from: Stocking on August 07, 2011, 02:29:01 PM ---Essentially, but people like Dissolve find online lessons for hearing people and automatically assumes that all deaf people are capable of perfect English.
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I never said perfect English. I expect someone to be able to type a sentence that at least has some form of grammatical structure.
Hearing has almost nothing to do with reading, save being told how to read, and since to me it seems like furling is smart enough to read and understand, he doesn't need to learn how to read. He can read about grammar. He can learn English grammar, it might be harder for him then for example you or me, but he still can.
Like I said before, I don't expect ANYONE to type with 100% perfect grammar, I do expect it to be somewhat intelligible though.