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CpW:

--- Quote from: Dissolve on August 07, 2011, 02:57:31 PM ----stuff-

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Ok, stop being a friend, and just stop arguing.

--- Quote from: Dissolve on August 07, 2011, 02:57:31 PM ---There's a difference, first off, I never said he had to do this in 4 weeks or any specific time. Second, he knows English to some degree already. He can read, that should be obvious, therefore, he can head about grammar. I'm not asking him to learn the whole English language.

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It's pretty much impossible to learn grammar without listening to it, to know how it sounds and to know how to use it correctly.
Now just stop jumping Furling and go away. Just stop trying, because you aren't winning.

Mega-Bear:

--- Quote from: DontCare4Free on August 07, 2011, 01:45:39 PM ---So essentially it's a flaw in the ASL?

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Well, you could look at it that way. Though language is language, the way he sees it we're talking in a flawed manner.

Dissolve:

--- Quote from: CpW on August 07, 2011, 03:06:40 PM ---Ok, stop being a friend, and just stop arguing.

It's pretty much impossible to learn grammar without listening to it, to know how it sounds and to know how to use it correctly.
Now just stop jumping Furling and go away. Just stop trying, because you aren't winning.

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Ok I'm going to list out what I'm saying, tell me where I'm wrong.

He can read.
He can read about grammar.
He can read about how to use proper grammar.

What you people don't get about what I'm saying is: He already knows a good chunk of English, he just has to improve his grammar.

Now to be completely fair, if he uses some sort of translator or English is not his first language, then I am completely sorry.

Another thing, this is the internet, he could just be out for attention.

DontCare4Free:

--- Quote from: Mega-Bear on August 07, 2011, 03:11:03 PM ---Well, you could look at it that way. Though language is language, the way he sees it we're talking in a flawed manner.

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A in ASL = American. Since the primary american language is English, you would at least expect them to model their sign language after English.

Stocking:

--- Quote from: Dissolve on August 07, 2011, 02:57:31 PM ---Depends on the sentance, sometimes I have to read it twice, sometimes it's fine.
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Yeah so what's the big deal?

--- Quote from: Dissolve on August 07, 2011, 02:57:31 PM ---What does that have to do with hearing?There's a difference, first off, I never said he had to do this in 4 weeks or any specific time.
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Yeah but it takes a long loving time to learn a language that way, and it's easily the worst way to go about doing it. The point was is that in 4 weeks you'd pick up nothing because that way is ridiculously slow and arduous. I learned Japanese from people around me speaking it and from hearing it on television, which is the same exact way I learned English. I taught myself German through just text I found online and my German is loving horrible, the sheer amount of tedium required to learn a language that way makes it completely impractical, and it's a blessing that I'm not deaf because I'd probably struggle to speak a single language were it not for my hearing.

--- Quote from: Dissolve on August 07, 2011, 02:57:31 PM ---Second, he knows English to some degree already. He can read, that should be obvious, therefore, he can head about grammar. I'm not asking him to learn the whole English language.

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Yeah so he knows enough English to read and talk, which is a pretty significant feat for a deaf person learning a second language.

And what do you mean "head about grammar"?

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